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the smoke radio for the masses of July 8

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1947 the Army Air Forces has announced

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that a flying disc has been found and is

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now in the possession of the army

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game is rigged change the game game

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changer

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I occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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this work

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this is Fade to Black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer Radio

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foreign

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good evening long day today we'll get to

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all of that this is Fade to Black it's

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Wednesday April 19 2023 I'm Yours Jimmy

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church and tonight we're going to do a

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full night of Bigfoot and the science of

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Bigfoot encounters with Dr Simi and Hein

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and here's the deal

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uh uh Dr Hein is a former University

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professor in statistics and research

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methods he came across the idea of

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remote viewing back in 1996

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and he took it as a skeptic as it should

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be since then uh in the training and and

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everything else

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um they he had to determined that there

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was a large scientific knowledge that is

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being withheld from public discussion

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we're going to be talking about all of

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this tonight he established a non-profit

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Institute for residents and began

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teaching remote viewing classes in

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Boulder Colorado continues to teach

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online he also became interested in all

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those other topics that come along for

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the ride crop circles unexplained aerial

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phenomena uaps UFOs and

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extraterrestrials tonight it is Bigfoot

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his website is mountbaldy.com and I

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would like to welcome very excited about

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tonight's show For the First Time Dr

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Simeon Hein Dr Hein good evening how are

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you sir hey Jimmy how's it going tonight

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thanks for having me here man you know

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this is going to be a great night

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um but before we get started you get the

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First Time guest disclaimer so let's get

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that out of the way which is uh Dr Hein

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it's just you and I sitting on my couch

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having a conversation as friends and

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where it starts it starts where it ends

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it ends but we're gonna end as friends

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there you go that's a that's a 10 year

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old tradition on this show the next time

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you are you're not going to get it but

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tonight you have to accept

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I think your disclaimer for me should be

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warning you may be distracted by Jimmy's

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guitars and feel the urge to play I'm

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distracted by your your puppy back there

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who seems after behaving yeah Astro

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doing a good job seven seven month old

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puppy rescue I love that man I I love

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that's that's just the way to go you

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know it's just the way to go

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um so uh uh before we jump into Bigfoot

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should ask Dr Kirkpatrick and they

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this well-known phrase if all you have

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20 percent of the data yeah I saw that

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tweet I saw that tweet and and Tim is

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detective that you don't want on your

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weeks ago when Sean Kirkpatrick and Avi

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possibility of alien motherships in our

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Earth and all gillibrand had to do when

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that moment well can I ask you about

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that op-ed that you just wrote with Avi

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co-author and then because there's

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something behind that what made you go

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then say that there's no data that

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represents E.T you know and and it was a

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more you know deep questioning something

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that went farther than just the sort of

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superficial bureaucratic sort of talk

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little bit more but it didn't happen

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the government I'm not sure the

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government is capable of handling this

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topic honestly I think it may have to

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things which were very dismissive of

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Smithsonian at the time and they funded

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flew but yet the Wright brothers who

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bicycles were successful so how could

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you be just so dismissive of ordinary

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people and say Well it has to you know

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the way he was describing it we have to

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get these bureaucrats and government

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scientists to agree and then it has to

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be peer reviewed you already said

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like it all has to stay Within These

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bureaucracies that this doesn't make

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sense to me yeah it's always about the

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funding you know and and in today's

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funding environment it's a tough world I

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get that but if that's was if that was

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part of the focus of the hearing today I

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think Kirkpatrick kind of dropped the

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um when Ernst uh Senator Ernst when she

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came at him and said you know um

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are you kind of redundant right are

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there other agencies doing this work is

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you know and a very good question and

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his answer another gift right that was a

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softball tossed to him all he had to say

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is look we're looking at this stuff but

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points to something off Planet it makes

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everything worthwhile and that's what

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arrow is here to do that's all I had to

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say funding will come your way he kind

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of dropped the ball a little bit he used

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this an acronym

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some sop we want to make this someone

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else's problem yeah SCP yeah yeah

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someone SCP like let's just kick the can

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down the road you know everyone who

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studied this subject and you're well

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aware of this project sign the engineers

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at Wright Patterson who looked at the

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Roswell wreckage wrote a report that

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extraterrestrial way back 1947 1948

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and the report was burnt we don't have

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any copies of that it was destroyed so

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even within the history of the military

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you had people who believed it was

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extraterrestrial how can you just say

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nowadays well there's just no evidence

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when we've had people all along Roscoe

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Hill and cutter and all sorts of people

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from government agencies breaking ranks

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and saying I this has to be something

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I'll tell you the facts of the case

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Kirkpatrick hasn't seen anything for

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himself he hasn't had that Paradigm

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Shift you know the daylight uh day time

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object in the sky that you see you know

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the Holy Grail with your own eyeballs he

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hasn't seen that and I've seen some I've

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seen stuff like you and others I've seen

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stuff where I've I don't know what it

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was but it wasn't us right I I can't

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definitively say what it was but when

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you see something like that you know

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clearly that it's not us and that's what

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drives me to go and find answers he

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hasn't had that Paradigm Shift yet

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yeah and even if he had he's sticking to

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the company line he is I'm not saying

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he's a bad guy not at all I I think he's

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doing what he believes his job is to do

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which is to keep narrowing down the

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explanation until we can discount

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anything that's off planet or what's

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called nowadays nhi non-human

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intelligence right but

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the only way you can do that is by not

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looking at the evidence because there's

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so much of it even again I you know I

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attended the citizen Hearing in 2013 at

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the national Press Club and that was

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five days of testimony from people who

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had served as missile control launch

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officers four of them and they said this

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is not our stuff and it's not foreign

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adversaries they can't do that and it

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took our missiles offline

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people like people from the fa people

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from the military people from foreign

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militaries people from the rentals from

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forest group a group of Roswell

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Witnesses you just had really good

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quality Witnesses for five days

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I can't see how you can say there's just

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no evidence that any of this is

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non-ordinary just doesn't it doesn't

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make sense to say that there was one

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other part then this is a Bigfoot night

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so we'll we'll switch off of this or we

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we can talk guitar for the rest of the

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show too as well

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um is is this

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gillibrand was again given another gift

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when he said

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we've interviewed over two dozen

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Witnesses

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right there you stop you stop the

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hearing oh like who what did they say

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right and and it was they just let it go

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I don't understand that I want to know

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who those two dozen Witnesses were and

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and and why gillibrand sent those

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witnesses to Arrow uh to you know for an

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investigation I I don't get that they

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just let it go

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yeah and I've spoken to Witnesses who've

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told me Point Blank they Engineers top

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top-notch Engineers have told me they've

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handled this material and they're a

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hundred percent convinced it's

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non-terrestrial it's not made like

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materials that that we see on Earth it's

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it's a whole different type of

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technology I I've talked to three of

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these people so far and none of them

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really want to say very much except that

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they their group analyzed it and they

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concluded it wasn't something from here

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so where are those people and these are

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really high level people that would

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everyone would know if they came forward

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so you know who are these Witnesses but

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you know I think there's another aspect

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to it wasn't there a closed Hearing in

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the afternoon just like we had a year

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ago so we don't know what's going on

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there the the good stuff apparently last

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year happened in the afternoon but the

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public again didn't hear it nope and uh

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this one it's Arrow uh I guess we needed

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an explanation of their operation which

329
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he laid out pretty clearly

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um and if that was the goal which was to

331
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check in on Arrow and see if they needed

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anything and you saw and heard you know

333
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Gilbert okay we'll write that letter for

334
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you we'll take care of this is there

335
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anything else that you need from us okay

336
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I I get all of that but uh the two

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videos that he showed yeah actually

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pretty interesting uh uh both of them I

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think that muscle video was a metallic

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balloon of some kind

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um he said that they'll never be able to

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identify what that was but the other one

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where they revealed with the Fleer

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Imaging the tale of the aircraft yeah it

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was pretty cool yeah I appreciated that

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that's pretty good pretty good A lot

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better than the last hearing uh with

348
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that video small food that they did for

349
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sure

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um uh one last thing on on where we are

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today with uh UFOs and uaps it is pretty

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extraordinary

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hearings in a year on this subject on

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Capitol Hill uh do you feel the tide

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changing on this is this something that

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um is you know the you know disclosure

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and the Big D is are we are we getting

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closer is there something tangible out

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there now that you can kind of feel

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I think we're getting closer uh I think

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this is just the beginning of it because

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the witnesses I've talked to who've

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worked within military you know

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intelligence communities they must be

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having the same reaction that we are and

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they know what's going on with this and

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I would imagine they feel some sense of

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frustration

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that we're really not getting the type

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of accountability that we expect from

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our government yeah no doubt and I

372
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there's thousands of witnesses out there

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it's obvious there are thousands we've

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only heard from the tip of the iceberg

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and at some point I just think it's

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going to be like

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it's like the dam you just have to

378
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remove one brick from the dam for the

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whole thing to start flowing and

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eventually collapse I think some of

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these witnesses will eventually say look

382
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we this is just not the way we do things

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here in the United States we have to

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tell the truth and I think that the

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truth will win out in this case even

386
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though we didn't really see evidence of

387
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that today but look the Berlin Wall fell

388
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down a lot faster than anyone thought in

389
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1989 I was working over there in Austria

390
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the year it started and I you could see

391
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the beginnings of it but no one expected

392
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it to crumble that quickly so these

393
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things can really take take on a

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momentum that we don't see in the

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beginning yeah you're right about that

396
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it was like one day there was talk right

397
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and the next day they were pulling that

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thing I mean it uh you remember that

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sledgehammers yeah uh that was just

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crazy all right let's get to Bigfoot

401
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um uh I'm not sure where to start but I

402
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I kind of want to say this I used to be

403
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on the fence when it came to Bigfoot

404
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and so I always approached it

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um as objectively as I could and can't

406
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but here's the thing

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I believe that the Patterson gimlin film

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is authentic okay

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and if ufology had a UFO video like the

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Patterson gimlin film it would be case

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closed but it's not right Bigfoot is not

412
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case closed and and I'm still but I'm

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starting to think that there is

414
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but something more paranormal going on

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something more Supernatural that may be

416
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going on and that's where I sit today

417
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but I I just don't have those answers

418
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but I want to go squashing so this is my

419
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opening question

420
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I go squatching

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and and I'm by myself

422
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okay all right I'm camping I'm in the

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woods it's at night

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and I see something

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what do you think would be typical of of

426
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a Bigfoot encounter in that kind of

427
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scenario

428
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well typically before you see something

429
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you hear something or you feel something

430
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and this is what I've seen investigating

431
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this subject for a couple years now is

432
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you get these premonitions that

433
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something's not right

434
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or something's different

435
00:19:48,770 --> 00:19:46,799
you may even have some of these

436
00:19:50,930 --> 00:19:48,780
phenomena show up that we typically

437
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associate with UFOs

438
00:19:56,990 --> 00:19:53,640
or other paranormal phenomena ahead of

439
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the Bigfoot encounter like orbs and such

440
00:20:02,270 --> 00:20:00,299
but typically Witnesses and this doesn't

441
00:20:05,150 --> 00:20:02,280
you know there's so many variations in

442
00:20:08,150 --> 00:20:05,160
these types of contact they hear sounds

443
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they hear wood knocking sounds they hear

444
00:20:15,310 --> 00:20:11,820
strange howls there's something else

445
00:20:17,630 --> 00:20:15,320
look at this comment

446
00:20:19,490 --> 00:20:17,640
sandwiches yes you may find your food

447
00:20:20,990 --> 00:20:19,500
disappearing it's things like this now

448
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here's the thing we're very good at

449
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rationalizing and friends I have and

450
00:20:28,250 --> 00:20:26,100
other Witnesses and I've got to know a

451
00:20:29,330 --> 00:20:28,260
lot of people like this being in the you

452
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know the foothills of the Rocky

453
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Mountains it's very easy for your mind

454
00:20:36,650 --> 00:20:34,559
to rationalize it as being just an odd

455
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sounding coyote maybe a bigger coyote

456
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than you're used to hearing or you say

457
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you know that weird feeling I'm getting

458
00:20:44,570 --> 00:20:43,080
maybe I'm just not feeling well or

459
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something you'll rationalize or I'm

460
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worried about something that happened

461
00:20:49,669 --> 00:20:48,179
earlier in the day as I was leaving but

462
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typically what happens is it's a

463
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premonition of an encounter before they

464
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show up at your tent or wherever you

465
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happen to be and there's so many

466
00:21:01,970 --> 00:20:59,820
variations in these types of encounters

467
00:21:04,669 --> 00:21:01,980
Jimmy that there's no way to generalize

468
00:21:07,510 --> 00:21:04,679
it we're even attempting to do that here

469
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some of them seem very

470
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beneficial the harmonious uh you know

471
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cooperative and some of them seem

472
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hostile and everything in between

473
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so now let's change this scenario just a

474
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little bit

475
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it's you and I

476
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sitting there just watching okay and

477
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there's a moment where you're gonna go

478
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oh

479
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right okay there's gonna be that moment

480
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what do you think that would be for you

481
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that you would notice first where you're

482
00:21:45,470 --> 00:21:43,679
going to go Jimmy Jimmy hold on would it

483
00:21:48,830 --> 00:21:45,480
be something internal would it be

484
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Consciousness alerting or something else

485
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smell

486
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yeah well people sometimes report this

487
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mind speak in their minds right some

488
00:22:02,510 --> 00:21:59,280
people like uh Carter Bouchard have

489
00:22:05,330 --> 00:22:02,520
referred to it as psychic nudging

490
00:22:06,950 --> 00:22:05,340
it's something that attempts a type of

491
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Mind Control

492
00:22:12,230 --> 00:22:09,360
even before you're aware of it that's

493
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what makes it such a strange topic

494
00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:15,299
I used to think probably like you maybe

495
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because I listen to a lot of art Bells

496
00:22:21,770 --> 00:22:20,100
interviews with people like Lauren

497
00:22:24,350 --> 00:22:21,780
Coleman that just this was just some

498
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sort of Relic primate a very rare ape

499
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but still a normal mammal but just rare

500
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but that's not what it turned out to be

501
00:22:33,470 --> 00:22:31,679
at all not from the research I've seen

502
00:22:35,570 --> 00:22:33,480
in the last 20 years

503
00:22:38,330 --> 00:22:35,580
it's a lot Stranger than that you could

504
00:22:40,909 --> 00:22:38,340
hear something talking in your mind

505
00:22:43,390 --> 00:22:40,919
attempting to get you to come out of

506
00:22:47,090 --> 00:22:43,400
your tent or your camper

507
00:22:50,330 --> 00:22:47,100
it might be just a feeling to change

508
00:22:53,750 --> 00:22:50,340
directions on the trail if you're hiking

509
00:22:56,270 --> 00:22:53,760
and it might even turn into lost time

510
00:22:58,010 --> 00:22:56,280
missing time you might not even know

511
00:22:59,690 --> 00:22:58,020
what happened in other words you and I

512
00:23:02,450 --> 00:22:59,700
might be in the tent and all of a sudden

513
00:23:04,130 --> 00:23:02,460
it's five hours later right and all we

514
00:23:05,330 --> 00:23:04,140
heard were some howls and we saw

515
00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:05,340
something out there all of a sudden it's

516
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five hours later

517
00:23:09,710 --> 00:23:08,100
it could be like that or maybe not or

518
00:23:10,850 --> 00:23:09,720
maybe they moved your whole tent that's

519
00:23:12,529 --> 00:23:10,860
how you know something that happens

520
00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:12,539
there's reports of that too where people

521
00:23:17,630 --> 00:23:14,640
say they took them out of danger during

522
00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:17,640
snowstorms things like that now you're

523
00:23:20,750 --> 00:23:19,200
suggesting something possibly

524
00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:20,760
interdimensional

525
00:23:25,370 --> 00:23:23,520
yes definitely this does not fit any

526
00:23:26,930 --> 00:23:25,380
categories we're used to and the reason

527
00:23:27,890 --> 00:23:26,940
I think it relates to what you and I

528
00:23:31,549 --> 00:23:27,900
were just talking about a few minutes

529
00:23:35,270 --> 00:23:31,559
ago it has a lot of parallels to UFO

530
00:23:36,669 --> 00:23:35,280
witness encounters including missing

531
00:23:40,510 --> 00:23:36,679
time

532
00:23:44,510 --> 00:23:40,520
cameras and batteries instrument failure

533
00:23:47,330 --> 00:23:44,520
and uh just other strange effects

534
00:23:48,890 --> 00:23:47,340
strange luminosities orbs and things now

535
00:23:50,029 --> 00:23:48,900
this is not every single encounter I

536
00:23:52,430 --> 00:23:50,039
know there are people out there that can

537
00:23:54,049 --> 00:23:52,440
be saying no no Simeon there's just

538
00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:54,059
there are Flesh and Blood encounters

539
00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:55,679
where it does seem like you encountered

540
00:24:00,169 --> 00:23:59,039
just a human primate whatever you think

541
00:24:01,610 --> 00:24:00,179
it is but there are many other

542
00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:01,620
encounters where you get these other

543
00:24:06,590 --> 00:24:04,080
phenomena happening just like

544
00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:06,600
uh in UFO encounters uh you know you

545
00:24:10,490 --> 00:24:08,400
probably know of Stan Gordon who's

546
00:24:12,409 --> 00:24:10,500
written about this in Pennsylvania and

547
00:24:14,270 --> 00:24:12,419
his research on Cryptids and when I

548
00:24:16,669 --> 00:24:14,280
first met Stan at one of these

549
00:24:18,890 --> 00:24:16,679
conferences in 2002 the UFO crash

550
00:24:21,529 --> 00:24:18,900
retrieval conference in Vegas

551
00:24:24,049 --> 00:24:21,539
and he was invited to talk about Bigfoot

552
00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:24,059
UFO encounters where at the same time I

553
00:24:28,850 --> 00:24:26,400
don't think my mind could handle that

554
00:24:32,090 --> 00:24:28,860
for the longest time I would pick up his

555
00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:32,100
book a silent Invasion and then I would

556
00:24:35,810 --> 00:24:34,080
like read a couple pages and put it down

557
00:24:38,690 --> 00:24:35,820
I couldn't understand why you would have

558
00:24:41,390 --> 00:24:38,700
Bigfoot and UFOs in the same fields at

559
00:24:43,810 --> 00:24:41,400
the same time in the same vicinities but

560
00:24:45,710 --> 00:24:43,820
if you see them as being some sort of

561
00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:45,720
interdimensional phenomena something

562
00:24:49,130 --> 00:24:47,039
that's coming through from parallel

563
00:24:50,810 --> 00:24:49,140
realities it kind of makes sense is once

564
00:24:52,730 --> 00:24:50,820
you open that doorway lots of stuff can

565
00:24:56,990 --> 00:24:52,740
come through yeah you're right about

566
00:24:59,570 --> 00:24:57,000
that uh there are a large majority of

567
00:25:01,210 --> 00:24:59,580
Bigfoot researchers that don't want to

568
00:25:04,250 --> 00:25:01,220
discuss UFOs

569
00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:04,260
that that that's you guys

570
00:25:09,649 --> 00:25:06,480
we're talking about Bigfoot here you

571
00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:09,659
know and they don't want but I think

572
00:25:17,029 --> 00:25:13,200
there is a growing segment of those

573
00:25:19,850 --> 00:25:17,039
researchers that are starting to open up

574
00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:19,860
to the possibility of a direct

575
00:25:24,110 --> 00:25:21,440
connection here

576
00:25:24,830 --> 00:25:24,120
one of the reasons why I'm okay with

577
00:25:26,990 --> 00:25:24,840
that

578
00:25:29,090 --> 00:25:27,000
which goes back to the interdimensional

579
00:25:31,310 --> 00:25:29,100
aspect of this

580
00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:31,320
um and the similarities with UFOs which

581
00:25:37,070 --> 00:25:35,039
is Bigfoot seems to appear

582
00:25:40,610 --> 00:25:37,080
and disappear

583
00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:40,620
and that just like things appearing in

584
00:25:44,990 --> 00:25:42,480
the sky and disappearing in the sky

585
00:25:46,669 --> 00:25:45,000
whether it's a parallel world it's

586
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:46,679
interdimensional there's a portal

587
00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:51,360
opening some vorte I don't know but the

588
00:25:57,049 --> 00:25:53,760
descriptions uh of these eyewitness

589
00:25:59,390 --> 00:25:57,059
encounters are very very similar very

590
00:26:01,610 --> 00:25:59,400
similar there are these patterns and and

591
00:26:04,010 --> 00:26:01,620
Jimmy that's what really

592
00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:04,020
got me really hooked into the topic was

593
00:26:07,730 --> 00:26:06,000
if you started reading the encounter

594
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:07,740
stories talking to Witnesses yourself

595
00:26:12,049 --> 00:26:10,080
and a lot of these people though I got

596
00:26:13,789 --> 00:26:12,059
to know about the subject who took my RV

597
00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:13,799
classes here in Boulder these are

598
00:26:18,529 --> 00:26:15,600
Colorado natives

599
00:26:21,169 --> 00:26:18,539
many of them had had Bigfoot Sasquatch

600
00:26:23,690 --> 00:26:21,179
Encounters in the Rockies over the years

601
00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:23,700
and it was like a cumulative effect I

602
00:26:27,049 --> 00:26:25,200
think it's just like many of us you have

603
00:26:28,669 --> 00:26:27,059
to hear something a number of times it

604
00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:28,679
could take decades like it did in my

605
00:26:32,750 --> 00:26:30,720
case for it to really sink into our

606
00:26:34,430 --> 00:26:32,760
thick skulls that this is real if people

607
00:26:36,169 --> 00:26:34,440
are experiencing this because there's a

608
00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:36,179
part of you that wants to go back to the

609
00:26:39,890 --> 00:26:37,679
story that you learned in high school

610
00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:39,900
and college which is that these things

611
00:26:43,730 --> 00:26:41,760
are a type of folklore

612
00:26:45,890 --> 00:26:43,740
you know they're not they don't really

613
00:26:48,169 --> 00:26:45,900
exist people are seeing things that that

614
00:26:49,610 --> 00:26:48,179
part of your mind keeps rationalizing it

615
00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:49,620
until you keep encountering the

616
00:26:52,610 --> 00:26:51,360
witnesses and you go wait a minute wait

617
00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:52,620
a minute they're all just like you said

618
00:26:57,289 --> 00:26:54,480
they're all describing the same thing

619
00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:57,299
and some of them describe this sort of

620
00:27:03,789 --> 00:27:00,240
mental confusion they feel around their

621
00:27:06,590 --> 00:27:03,799
Sasquatch encounters time loss uh

622
00:27:08,690 --> 00:27:06,600
another bizarre aspect of it is groups

623
00:27:11,090 --> 00:27:08,700
of witnesses won't describe the same

624
00:27:13,669 --> 00:27:11,100
creature the same way I mean not even

625
00:27:15,950 --> 00:27:13,679
close they'll describe it one will say

626
00:27:18,409 --> 00:27:15,960
it was like a huge primate others will

627
00:27:20,029 --> 00:27:18,419
say it looked more like a cat a cat on

628
00:27:22,850 --> 00:27:20,039
two legs some will say it looked more

629
00:27:24,769 --> 00:27:22,860
like a caveman and they can't even agree

630
00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:24,779
what they saw so there's a lot of

631
00:27:28,669 --> 00:27:26,159
similarities

632
00:27:30,830 --> 00:27:28,679
uh and don't forget the glowing eyes

633
00:27:33,529 --> 00:27:30,840
that emit light we're not talking about

634
00:27:36,769 --> 00:27:33,539
eye reflection here we're talking about

635
00:27:39,169 --> 00:27:36,779
I shine literally glowing eyes that emit

636
00:27:41,090 --> 00:27:39,179
light onto the Forest Trail all the

637
00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:41,100
colors of the rainbow

638
00:27:46,669 --> 00:27:44,880
and it's just the same thing from one

639
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:46,679
witness to another with you know with

640
00:27:50,750 --> 00:27:48,960
variations so yeah there's the Flesh and

641
00:27:53,630 --> 00:27:50,760
Blood interpretation

642
00:27:55,850 --> 00:27:53,640
but I think those researchers are so

643
00:27:58,190 --> 00:27:55,860
concerned about being accepted by

644
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:58,200
mainstream Society for whatever reason

645
00:28:01,970 --> 00:28:00,240
they want to be accepted and that's not

646
00:28:04,430 --> 00:28:01,980
usually the best way to go in science

647
00:28:06,590 --> 00:28:04,440
you're maybe not going to be popular for

648
00:28:08,990 --> 00:28:06,600
quite a long time if ever you just have

649
00:28:11,149 --> 00:28:09,000
to accept it but there's so many other

650
00:28:13,490 --> 00:28:11,159
cases where the people said just they

651
00:28:16,430 --> 00:28:13,500
went invisible they turn into something

652
00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:16,440
that looked like Saran Wrap which you

653
00:28:21,409 --> 00:28:18,720
can see in the David Pilates missing

654
00:28:22,789 --> 00:28:21,419
4-1-1 the hunted documentary and what a

655
00:28:25,549 --> 00:28:22,799
lot of people have described that so

656
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:25,559
what is that what is that well help me

657
00:28:32,830 --> 00:28:28,559
understand what that may be

658
00:28:35,149 --> 00:28:32,840
um is that uh if we

659
00:28:38,090 --> 00:28:35,159
interdimensional is a word that I think

660
00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:38,100
even I use too freely

661
00:28:43,789 --> 00:28:41,520
um it's a it's an easy word to use when

662
00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:43,799
you're trying to describe something that

663
00:28:48,769 --> 00:28:46,080
is Indescribable so you just say

664
00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:48,779
interdimensional but when we use that

665
00:28:54,669 --> 00:28:51,360
kind of term invisible what will Circle

666
00:28:57,649 --> 00:28:54,679
back to that but what is an

667
00:28:59,690 --> 00:28:57,659
interdimensional creature where are they

668
00:29:00,470 --> 00:28:59,700
coming from what is the science behind

669
00:29:06,289 --> 00:29:00,480
that

670
00:29:09,470 --> 00:29:06,299
I I often think of the same thing these

671
00:29:11,690 --> 00:29:09,480
types of life could become invisible

672
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:11,700
without literally being interdimensional

673
00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:13,679
we already have animals on the planet

674
00:29:20,570 --> 00:29:16,640
that are very good at doing that right

675
00:29:23,810 --> 00:29:20,580
octopus and cuttlefish and types of life

676
00:29:27,070 --> 00:29:23,820
that can blend into their background in

677
00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:27,080
a second millisecond chameleons

678
00:29:32,510 --> 00:29:29,760
chameleons right and we also have

679
00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:32,520
animals like the pistol shrimp that can

680
00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:37,200
stun its prey with sound cavitation you

681
00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:39,840
know sound that's so forceful beyond

682
00:29:44,690 --> 00:29:42,000
your frankenstract back there beyond

683
00:29:48,110 --> 00:29:44,700
what Eddie and could do with that that

684
00:29:51,169 --> 00:29:48,120
it can actually create pressure that can

685
00:29:54,169 --> 00:29:51,179
render you unconscious or injure you so

686
00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:54,179
if we already have known animals that we

687
00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:56,640
accept can do that it's not much of a

688
00:30:01,370 --> 00:29:58,799
stretch that there's probably other

689
00:30:03,289 --> 00:30:01,380
types of life that really got good at

690
00:30:05,630 --> 00:30:03,299
doing that and we can't even see them

691
00:30:08,529 --> 00:30:05,640
anymore in fact they found it to their

692
00:30:11,330 --> 00:30:08,539
advantage to develop this type of

693
00:30:13,310 --> 00:30:11,340
invisibility but having said that it

694
00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:13,320
seems to me that these Bigfoot and other

695
00:30:17,149 --> 00:30:15,360
types of Cryptids that we don't really

696
00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:17,159
have very good names for

697
00:30:25,010 --> 00:30:21,960
uh do seem to really vanish from an area

698
00:30:27,529 --> 00:30:25,020
entirely or because the way they can

699
00:30:30,350 --> 00:30:27,539
move around a campsite or in the forest

700
00:30:32,450 --> 00:30:30,360
people describe it as looking like the

701
00:30:34,730 --> 00:30:32,460
Road Runner on one of those Bugs Bunny

702
00:30:37,310 --> 00:30:34,740
cartoons that you and I used to watch as

703
00:30:38,750 --> 00:30:37,320
a kid it's moving so fast it looks like

704
00:30:40,970 --> 00:30:38,760
a blur

705
00:30:42,889 --> 00:30:40,980
to me that represents an entirely

706
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:42,899
different type of physics I think I

707
00:30:47,149 --> 00:30:44,640
think we have some idea of what that is

708
00:30:49,789 --> 00:30:47,159
but that's that is something that is

709
00:30:53,389 --> 00:30:49,799
going beyond the norm in quite a big way

710
00:30:56,029 --> 00:30:53,399
the gliding the floating over an area

711
00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:56,039
and that rapid movement people say it's

712
00:31:01,970 --> 00:30:58,799
like it didn't move in the intervening

713
00:31:03,889 --> 00:31:01,980
space whether it be a big big foot or

714
00:31:07,490 --> 00:31:03,899
what's called dog man it seemed to jump

715
00:31:09,830 --> 00:31:07,500
from here to there to there and and just

716
00:31:11,630 --> 00:31:09,840
almost be like a blur in between like

717
00:31:13,610 --> 00:31:11,640
almost like in a different frame of

718
00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:13,620
reference the way Einstein would have

719
00:31:17,930 --> 00:31:15,600
thought about it it's a different type

720
00:31:19,850 --> 00:31:17,940
of space time I think we're dealing with

721
00:31:22,970 --> 00:31:19,860
creatures that are made of a different

722
00:31:26,029 --> 00:31:22,980
type of matter than we're used to

723
00:31:27,710 --> 00:31:26,039
in ordinary reality they've just pushed

724
00:31:30,350 --> 00:31:27,720
it to the extreme where they're going

725
00:31:32,210 --> 00:31:30,360
into another einsteinian frame of

726
00:31:35,090 --> 00:31:32,220
reference with a different speed of

727
00:31:37,370 --> 00:31:35,100
light and a different time scale and

728
00:31:38,769 --> 00:31:37,380
this is why people experience this type

729
00:31:41,090 --> 00:31:38,779
of confusion

730
00:31:43,789 --> 00:31:41,100
it's so hard to talk about this because

731
00:31:46,970 --> 00:31:43,799
the the more intense the experience the

732
00:31:49,070 --> 00:31:46,980
harder it is to talk about and the less

733
00:31:51,230 --> 00:31:49,080
believable it seems because the rest of

734
00:31:53,810 --> 00:31:51,240
us it's hard to imagine what that person

735
00:31:55,730 --> 00:31:53,820
experienced and of course people do not

736
00:31:57,470 --> 00:31:55,740
like the stigma and the ridicule that

737
00:31:59,330 --> 00:31:57,480
comes along with talking about this

738
00:32:00,649 --> 00:31:59,340
subject being laughed at by their

739
00:32:02,450 --> 00:32:00,659
neighbors in their neighborhood or

740
00:32:04,130 --> 00:32:02,460
something like this so we have a lot of

741
00:32:06,350 --> 00:32:04,140
people out there have experienced this

742
00:32:09,710 --> 00:32:06,360
who are not talking about it just like

743
00:32:13,310 --> 00:32:09,720
the UFO topic yeah and uh you write

744
00:32:15,289 --> 00:32:13,320
about the time scale aspect to this

745
00:32:16,610 --> 00:32:15,299
which is something that isn't discussed

746
00:32:18,730 --> 00:32:16,620
enough

747
00:32:22,510 --> 00:32:18,740
um I have heard a couple of physicists

748
00:32:25,250 --> 00:32:22,520
uh bring this up when uh you know

749
00:32:28,909 --> 00:32:25,260
discussing the possibility of Life out

750
00:32:31,789 --> 00:32:28,919
there in the universe and the universe

751
00:32:34,190 --> 00:32:31,799
may be full of it all over the place but

752
00:32:39,430 --> 00:32:34,200
it's just not living in our time

753
00:32:45,190 --> 00:32:42,710
that was a sneeze hold on are you okay

754
00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:45,200
there yes real I

755
00:32:49,310 --> 00:32:48,240
did I hit the uh cough button fast

756
00:32:53,510 --> 00:32:49,320
enough

757
00:32:56,690 --> 00:32:53,520
you did man you did that was loud that

758
00:32:59,810 --> 00:32:56,700
was a real one that was a bomb

759
00:33:03,889 --> 00:32:59,820
um living in a different time scale yeah

760
00:33:08,029 --> 00:33:03,899
so we have difficulty if if if not an

761
00:33:09,769 --> 00:33:08,039
impossible situation of seeing these

762
00:33:12,169 --> 00:33:09,779
things and detecting them because they

763
00:33:14,690 --> 00:33:12,179
just don't live in our time reference so

764
00:33:17,409 --> 00:33:14,700
you're right we're seeing every other

765
00:33:19,389 --> 00:33:17,419
frame and we're getting lucky

766
00:33:21,169 --> 00:33:19,399
with that

767
00:33:23,389 --> 00:33:21,179
exactly

768
00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:23,399
I think it's very hard for a lot of

769
00:33:27,289 --> 00:33:25,200
people to think that way but this is

770
00:33:29,149 --> 00:33:27,299
part of our physics already this isn't

771
00:33:32,990 --> 00:33:29,159
even a new physics and we're not even

772
00:33:35,090 --> 00:33:33,000
talking about even that level Jimmy is

773
00:33:37,730 --> 00:33:35,100
not talking about parallel realities

774
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:37,740
many worlds interpretation you know Hugh

775
00:33:42,710 --> 00:33:41,279
Everett at Princeton in 1957 developed

776
00:33:44,330 --> 00:33:42,720
this what became to be called the many

777
00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:44,340
worlds interpretation of quantum

778
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:47,039
mechanics but even not even before we go

779
00:33:52,850 --> 00:33:50,159
there just in our sort of ordinary

780
00:33:54,649 --> 00:33:52,860
reality we can accept the idea that what

781
00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:54,659
seemed to be constants could be

782
00:34:00,830 --> 00:33:57,840
variables to other types of Life which

783
00:34:03,590 --> 00:34:00,840
would make them look blurry and you know

784
00:34:05,930 --> 00:34:03,600
Tom belonged to his credit had a tweet

785
00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:05,940
about that a year ago he said maybe

786
00:34:09,889 --> 00:34:08,879
Bigfoot looks blurry because Bigfoot is

787
00:34:12,109 --> 00:34:09,899
blurry

788
00:34:14,030 --> 00:34:12,119
I think that's actually correct you're

789
00:34:15,950 --> 00:34:14,040
dealing with different constructs of

790
00:34:18,050 --> 00:34:15,960
space and time in physics it's called

791
00:34:20,570 --> 00:34:18,060
permittivity which is the electrical

792
00:34:22,669 --> 00:34:20,580
constant of free space and permeability

793
00:34:24,409 --> 00:34:22,679
the magnetic constant well maybe they're

794
00:34:25,310 --> 00:34:24,419
not constant for all different types of

795
00:34:27,710 --> 00:34:25,320
life

796
00:34:30,290 --> 00:34:27,720
and we know that if those started to

797
00:34:32,750 --> 00:34:30,300
vary it would short out cameras and

798
00:34:35,450 --> 00:34:32,760
batteries cause different senses of time

799
00:34:37,129 --> 00:34:35,460
and make things look inherently blurry

800
00:34:38,990 --> 00:34:37,139
things that have variations and

801
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:39,000
permittivity and permeability it's

802
00:34:43,690 --> 00:34:41,280
almost like a frequency to us would look

803
00:34:48,349 --> 00:34:43,700
alert yeah well

804
00:34:49,810 --> 00:34:48,359
we I mean it said so I I mean I study

805
00:34:53,710 --> 00:34:49,820
this subject

806
00:34:58,870 --> 00:34:53,720
not Bigfoot the the science behind this

807
00:35:02,270 --> 00:34:58,880
and and I do my best to uh understand

808
00:35:03,970 --> 00:35:02,280
the science behind it but here's here's

809
00:35:08,089 --> 00:35:03,980
the thing

810
00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:08,099
time here on Earth and the frequencies

811
00:35:14,450 --> 00:35:12,000
that we see things in light the

812
00:35:18,290 --> 00:35:14,460
frequencies of things that we hear

813
00:35:20,569 --> 00:35:18,300
are on earth that's our time this is you

814
00:35:22,970 --> 00:35:20,579
know 24 hours and the rotation of the

815
00:35:25,490 --> 00:35:22,980
earth and and the Magnetic and the and

816
00:35:28,430 --> 00:35:25,500
the gravity behind that and the rotation

817
00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:28,440
around the Sun an hour a year all that's

818
00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:30,960
that's what we understand and that's the

819
00:35:37,550 --> 00:35:34,320
frequency that we live in but time is

820
00:35:40,849 --> 00:35:37,560
bent backwards and forwards throughout

821
00:35:43,069 --> 00:35:40,859
not only our solar system but throughout

822
00:35:44,810 --> 00:35:43,079
the Galaxy and uh the Milky Way

823
00:35:46,750 --> 00:35:44,820
throughout the Universe time is

824
00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:46,760
different everywhere it's not the same

825
00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:49,200
right we have a very and this is

826
00:35:53,270 --> 00:35:50,640
actually what I wrote my dissertation

827
00:35:55,849 --> 00:35:53,280
about in in graduate school it's about

828
00:35:58,849 --> 00:35:55,859
how time had become mechanized

829
00:36:00,589 --> 00:35:58,859
and put into this linear idea until we

830
00:36:03,290 --> 00:36:00,599
started to believe that it literally was

831
00:36:05,569 --> 00:36:03,300
linear when we know it isn't right it

832
00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:05,579
could be variable and and this is what

833
00:36:08,690 --> 00:36:07,200
we know from the special theory of

834
00:36:11,510 --> 00:36:08,700
relativity from Einstein all the way

835
00:36:15,290 --> 00:36:11,520
back in 1905 is that time can speed up

836
00:36:18,589 --> 00:36:15,300
it can Slow Down based on your frame of

837
00:36:21,050 --> 00:36:18,599
reference Einstein himself proposed a

838
00:36:24,290 --> 00:36:21,060
variable speed of light in 1907 and

839
00:36:26,270 --> 00:36:24,300
again in 1911 but the idea didn't gain

840
00:36:27,650 --> 00:36:26,280
traction because people had already had

841
00:36:29,569 --> 00:36:27,660
in their mind from his previous work

842
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:29,579
that it was fixed at this particular

843
00:36:34,130 --> 00:36:31,680
speed that we're all familiar with right

844
00:36:36,290 --> 00:36:34,140
well we suppose it could vary based on

845
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:36,300
gravity and if that's what we're dealing

846
00:36:41,810 --> 00:36:38,400
with here there could be life forms

847
00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:41,820
based on these types of variations in

848
00:36:48,349 --> 00:36:46,260
you know gravity time and so forth and

849
00:36:50,510 --> 00:36:48,359
it would they wouldn't look like we

850
00:36:52,250 --> 00:36:50,520
would expect ordinary mammals to look

851
00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:52,260
like which is why when you go to the zoo

852
00:36:55,550 --> 00:36:53,760
you don't normally have your batteries

853
00:36:56,750 --> 00:36:55,560
and cameras failing but Witnesses have

854
00:37:02,030 --> 00:36:56,760
told me this is what happened to them

855
00:37:04,430 --> 00:37:02,040
around Bigfoot the um the the part with

856
00:37:07,010 --> 00:37:04,440
that with Einstein

857
00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:07,020
um when he said because

858
00:37:10,790 --> 00:37:07,920
yeah

859
00:37:14,990 --> 00:37:10,800
okay look I'm not a physicist but I play

860
00:37:19,490 --> 00:37:15,000
one on TV okay so let me say this

861
00:37:22,670 --> 00:37:19,500
you can't have math work

862
00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:22,680
in physics if everybody's got a

863
00:37:27,530 --> 00:37:24,960
different speed of light

864
00:37:28,670 --> 00:37:27,540
number that they're plugging into their

865
00:37:31,069 --> 00:37:28,680
algorithms

866
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:31,079
so they had to have a standard right

867
00:37:37,790 --> 00:37:34,800
every so that so everybody's math would

868
00:37:39,890 --> 00:37:37,800
work it wouldn't work if everybody had

869
00:37:42,829 --> 00:37:39,900
well speed of light is I'm going to use

870
00:37:44,750 --> 00:37:42,839
this reference from this side of of the

871
00:37:46,609 --> 00:37:44,760
universe it's a little faster it's a

872
00:37:50,030 --> 00:37:46,619
little slower than the math goes off

873
00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:50,040
right but Einstein understood that they

874
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:52,079
argued and argued and argued they came

875
00:37:56,510 --> 00:37:54,480
up with one number and that's the speed

876
00:37:58,490 --> 00:37:56,520
of light that's it it's fixed and that's

877
00:38:01,010 --> 00:37:58,500
the number that we use in all of the

878
00:38:02,930 --> 00:38:01,020
math and I get why they did that but

879
00:38:05,569 --> 00:38:02,940
they also know

880
00:38:08,030 --> 00:38:05,579
time is different everywhere that's it

881
00:38:10,130 --> 00:38:08,040
that's it and we're gonna see things

882
00:38:12,050 --> 00:38:10,140
differently that's there isn't another

883
00:38:15,050 --> 00:38:12,060
way to look at it

884
00:38:18,069 --> 00:38:15,060
right and that is a little too much for

885
00:38:20,930 --> 00:38:18,079
our tiny brains to handle we just do not

886
00:38:24,050 --> 00:38:20,940
we you know just go we want to do what

887
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:24,060
like The Arrow presentation today in the

888
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:25,440
front of the Senate armed services

889
00:38:29,690 --> 00:38:28,079
committee we want it all to fit in these

890
00:38:32,089 --> 00:38:29,700
little boxes to be able to check them

891
00:38:34,130 --> 00:38:32,099
off and let go of it and say it's

892
00:38:35,450 --> 00:38:34,140
someone else's problem the pro the thing

893
00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:35,460
is

894
00:38:40,970 --> 00:38:38,460
it's probably a lot more complex than we

895
00:38:42,530 --> 00:38:40,980
were taught and to me Jimmy all of these

896
00:38:46,250 --> 00:38:42,540
topics all of these topics we call

897
00:38:48,890 --> 00:38:46,260
paranormal this is evidence that it's

898
00:38:50,690 --> 00:38:48,900
working in a more complex way than we

899
00:38:52,670 --> 00:38:50,700
were taught in grade school or high

900
00:38:56,329 --> 00:38:52,680
school and that we haven't completely

901
00:38:58,670 --> 00:38:56,339
Applied Physics to the way reality works

902
00:39:01,490 --> 00:38:58,680
because I think if you do

903
00:39:03,770 --> 00:39:01,500
you end up with this idea that there can

904
00:39:07,550 --> 00:39:03,780
be other types of energy and information

905
00:39:09,290 --> 00:39:07,560
that is not on a linear track it doesn't

906
00:39:10,730 --> 00:39:09,300
have a metric in fact we have a name for

907
00:39:13,310 --> 00:39:10,740
things like that we call it fractal

908
00:39:15,470 --> 00:39:13,320
geometry the way nature designs trees

909
00:39:18,710 --> 00:39:15,480
and mountains and clouds not according

910
00:39:20,750 --> 00:39:18,720
to lines but self-similar patterns so we

911
00:39:23,210 --> 00:39:20,760
know that there can also be fractal

912
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:23,220
types of time let me give you an example

913
00:39:28,490 --> 00:39:25,920
in our own bodies Our Hearts do not beat

914
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:28,500
in this regular even way

915
00:39:33,589 --> 00:39:31,440
like we would imagine they do they have

916
00:39:35,390 --> 00:39:33,599
a lot of variation because the heart the

917
00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:35,400
whole cardiovascular system has to

918
00:39:39,849 --> 00:39:37,680
continually adapt to our environment so

919
00:39:42,290 --> 00:39:39,859
it looks like a fractal the the

920
00:39:44,450 --> 00:39:42,300
signature of the heartbeat the the

921
00:39:46,130 --> 00:39:44,460
minute looks like the hour looks like a

922
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:46,140
few seconds it's all the same sort of

923
00:39:50,750 --> 00:39:48,480
variation but it never fits to a line

924
00:39:53,150 --> 00:39:50,760
and that is very hard for us to accept

925
00:39:55,069 --> 00:39:53,160
coming from our Western background our

926
00:39:57,650 --> 00:39:55,079
mechanistic way of looking at it that we

927
00:39:59,569 --> 00:39:57,660
got from Newton and the Cartesian

928
00:40:03,050 --> 00:39:59,579
perspective which wants to break it up

929
00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:03,060
into even little boxes so my idea is in

930
00:40:09,290 --> 00:40:05,280
between those even Little Boxes there's

931
00:40:11,690 --> 00:40:09,300
lots of types of life that learned lots

932
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:11,700
of things to adapt to the way nature

933
00:40:16,130 --> 00:40:13,920
really works and we're the ones in this

934
00:40:18,050 --> 00:40:16,140
box we're in the arrow box we want it to

935
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:18,060
make sense we wanted to check the boxes

936
00:40:22,190 --> 00:40:19,680
go home at the end of the day it doesn't

937
00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:22,200
it doesn't quite make sense the way we

938
00:40:25,490 --> 00:40:23,760
think it should I think it has its own

939
00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:25,500
logic but at the end of the day you have

940
00:40:29,569 --> 00:40:27,359
to go on the evidence the evidence is

941
00:40:31,250 --> 00:40:29,579
what the Witnesses are telling you for

942
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:31,260
too long we've been discounting these

943
00:40:37,010 --> 00:40:33,839
people we've just been finding counter

944
00:40:38,810 --> 00:40:37,020
explanations ways to discredit them and

945
00:40:40,910 --> 00:40:38,820
diminish the importance of what they

946
00:40:44,329 --> 00:40:40,920
tell us they've seen because it doesn't

947
00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:44,339
fit into this linear line let me tell

948
00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:46,320
you someone that has teached has taught

949
00:40:50,810 --> 00:40:48,720
statistics I was taught in graduate

950
00:40:52,970 --> 00:40:50,820
school that you throw out the outliers

951
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:52,980
that don't fit the line you throw out

952
00:40:57,069 --> 00:40:55,680
the UAP why they don't fit your linear

953
00:41:00,170 --> 00:40:57,079
regression line

954
00:41:01,910 --> 00:41:00,180
nowadays throwing out outliers would be

955
00:41:03,470 --> 00:41:01,920
seen like racism or something you're

956
00:41:05,329 --> 00:41:03,480
throwing out the things that don't fit

957
00:41:06,829 --> 00:41:05,339
your preconceived ideas the way reality

958
00:41:08,270 --> 00:41:06,839
should look right and I think that's

959
00:41:10,849 --> 00:41:08,280
totally skewed our scientific

960
00:41:12,890 --> 00:41:10,859
perspective the regressionally yeah yeah

961
00:41:15,829 --> 00:41:12,900
if it doesn't fit you know you got your

962
00:41:18,589 --> 00:41:15,839
blinders on right and if it's going to

963
00:41:20,030 --> 00:41:18,599
distort not only I hate saying belief

964
00:41:22,130 --> 00:41:20,040
system because that always sounds so

965
00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:22,140
religious to me but if it's going to

966
00:41:28,609 --> 00:41:25,680
alter uh your your theories your

967
00:41:30,589 --> 00:41:28,619
measurements your laboratory setting or

968
00:41:34,930 --> 00:41:30,599
your day-to-day life if it Alters that

969
00:41:39,950 --> 00:41:38,450
we got to back up for a second yes

970
00:41:42,770 --> 00:41:39,960
um

971
00:41:46,130 --> 00:41:42,780
if something is interdimensional and I'm

972
00:41:48,290 --> 00:41:46,140
speaking specifically about Bigfoot we

973
00:41:51,410 --> 00:41:48,300
call them Bigfoot because he leaves

974
00:41:54,349 --> 00:41:51,420
really big Footprints right right okay

975
00:41:55,250 --> 00:41:54,359
all right and I've seen them you've seen

976
00:41:59,589 --> 00:41:55,260
them

977
00:42:02,390 --> 00:41:59,599
when you go from interdimensional

978
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:02,400
to dimensional and into the physical

979
00:42:09,950 --> 00:42:05,280
physical enough to leave the footprint

980
00:42:15,950 --> 00:42:12,829
what must be happening is that these

981
00:42:17,810 --> 00:42:15,960
creatures or humans whatever you believe

982
00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:17,820
these are there's a big debate whether

983
00:42:21,170 --> 00:42:19,380
they're more on the primate side or the

984
00:42:23,210 --> 00:42:21,180
Native Americans believe they were a

985
00:42:24,770 --> 00:42:23,220
type of human they some of the tribes in

986
00:42:28,010 --> 00:42:24,780
the Northwest even said they traded with

987
00:42:30,109 --> 00:42:28,020
them going back a couple hundred years

988
00:42:31,790 --> 00:42:30,119
but whatever you think they are they

989
00:42:34,130 --> 00:42:31,800
seem to have the ability to modulate

990
00:42:36,109 --> 00:42:34,140
their frequency just like a musical

991
00:42:38,450 --> 00:42:36,119
instrument and that frequency could go

992
00:42:41,030 --> 00:42:38,460
higher and higher until it actually

993
00:42:43,550 --> 00:42:41,040
doesn't interact with physical matter

994
00:42:44,569 --> 00:42:43,560
because matter at its heart and now

995
00:42:46,190 --> 00:42:44,579
we're going to shift to Quantum

996
00:42:49,310 --> 00:42:46,200
Mechanics what are we told matter is

997
00:42:51,470 --> 00:42:49,320
it's basically frequency every every

998
00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:51,480
physical thing is actually a vibration

999
00:42:55,130 --> 00:42:53,760
it has a certain frequency to it which

1000
00:42:58,010 --> 00:42:55,140
is derived from something called the

1001
00:42:59,390 --> 00:42:58,020
Planck's constant the smallest unit of

1002
00:43:02,630 --> 00:42:59,400
action that we can measure it's a really

1003
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:02,640
small amount uh the time it takes light

1004
00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:06,240
to go across a a nucleus of an atom or

1005
00:43:10,430 --> 00:43:07,680
something it's a very small amount of

1006
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:10,440
time I heard Brian the frequencies yeah

1007
00:43:16,430 --> 00:43:13,440
I heard Brian Greene describe wrong

1008
00:43:18,589 --> 00:43:16,440
scale once and it blew my mind he said

1009
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:18,599
it is so small

1010
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:21,599
that if you blew up

1011
00:43:27,050 --> 00:43:23,760
the plank scale

1012
00:43:31,370 --> 00:43:27,060
to the size of the universe

1013
00:43:33,710 --> 00:43:31,380
okay all right it would be the size of

1014
00:43:35,890 --> 00:43:33,720
an apple tree

1015
00:43:40,069 --> 00:43:35,900
and I was just like

1016
00:43:42,410 --> 00:43:40,079
you know digest that's how small

1017
00:43:45,410 --> 00:43:42,420
the plank scale is

1018
00:43:46,130 --> 00:43:45,420
that's that's that's like incredible to

1019
00:43:49,010 --> 00:43:46,140
me

1020
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:49,020
yeah yeah it's it's it's it's really

1021
00:43:52,370 --> 00:43:50,400
that tiny

1022
00:43:54,050 --> 00:43:52,380
um and and I guess that reference would

1023
00:43:56,930 --> 00:43:54,060
also go back to string theory too as

1024
00:43:59,450 --> 00:43:56,940
well as far as vibration goes and and

1025
00:44:02,690 --> 00:43:59,460
math comes from something

1026
00:44:04,370 --> 00:44:02,700
right and and Jimmy people in physics

1027
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:04,380
well-known physicists Nobel Prize

1028
00:44:09,530 --> 00:44:06,720
winners people like Paul Durack who

1029
00:44:11,630 --> 00:44:09,540
proposed the idea of antimatter and what

1030
00:44:14,210 --> 00:44:11,640
in 1930 or so

1031
00:44:15,890 --> 00:44:14,220
before the particles that were

1032
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:15,900
discovered a couple years later in

1033
00:44:20,510 --> 00:44:18,000
cosmic background radiation the positron

1034
00:44:22,970 --> 00:44:20,520
people laughed at Dirac

1035
00:44:24,890 --> 00:44:22,980
the idea of an anti-matter universe but

1036
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:24,900
he said it had to come out of the

1037
00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:27,119
equations of quantum mechanics and yet a

1038
00:44:32,030 --> 00:44:29,040
couple years later they find depositron

1039
00:44:34,609 --> 00:44:32,040
the antimatter particle to the electron

1040
00:44:37,609 --> 00:44:34,619
he proposed some of these ideas that

1041
00:44:40,130 --> 00:44:37,619
there could be alternate universes uh

1042
00:44:42,290 --> 00:44:40,140
particles that would be exact opposite

1043
00:44:45,050 --> 00:44:42,300
charge and yet at the time no one could

1044
00:44:47,630 --> 00:44:45,060
quite accept it so even within quantum

1045
00:44:51,349 --> 00:44:47,640
mechanics you have these interpretations

1046
00:44:53,630 --> 00:44:51,359
that allow for the existence of other

1047
00:44:55,309 --> 00:44:53,640
realities and people nowadays are

1048
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:55,319
looking at this maybe some of the

1049
00:44:59,930 --> 00:44:57,599
particles in our universe spent some of

1050
00:45:01,250 --> 00:44:59,940
their time in other realities and then

1051
00:45:03,890 --> 00:45:01,260
come back so here's the thing about

1052
00:45:05,450 --> 00:45:03,900
frequency and Planck's constant the

1053
00:45:07,970 --> 00:45:05,460
reality that you and I are perceiving

1054
00:45:09,770 --> 00:45:07,980
around us right now I know it looks

1055
00:45:13,010 --> 00:45:09,780
continuous it looks like it's really

1056
00:45:15,410 --> 00:45:13,020
there but that could just be a beat of a

1057
00:45:18,890 --> 00:45:15,420
certain frequency to other life forms it

1058
00:45:21,170 --> 00:45:18,900
could seem really slow like a really low

1059
00:45:23,150 --> 00:45:21,180
base note compared to a treble note

1060
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:23,160
right and they're moving just like a

1061
00:45:27,410 --> 00:45:24,960
good lead guitarist moves in between

1062
00:45:29,690 --> 00:45:27,420
those very regular bass notes

1063
00:45:31,490 --> 00:45:29,700
they're moving in between our reality

1064
00:45:33,410 --> 00:45:31,500
because they're at a faster frequency in

1065
00:45:35,450 --> 00:45:33,420
our frame of reference this all looks

1066
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:35,460
continuous it's very convincing as a

1067
00:45:39,950 --> 00:45:37,920
solid structure but to them it might

1068
00:45:41,829 --> 00:45:39,960
look like just an etheric substance they

1069
00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:41,839
can easily move through in and around

1070
00:45:46,849 --> 00:45:44,400
and I think that's what Bigfoot and

1071
00:45:48,829 --> 00:45:46,859
other Cryptids are doing based on what

1072
00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:48,839
the Witnesses are tell us that they're

1073
00:45:52,849 --> 00:45:51,119
seeing and experiencing It just fits

1074
00:45:55,069 --> 00:45:52,859
what they're telling us the experience

1075
00:45:57,170 --> 00:45:55,079
if we stop discounting them and saying

1076
00:45:58,730 --> 00:45:57,180
these are just weird people you know

1077
00:46:00,829 --> 00:45:58,740
these are ice crystals or weather

1078
00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:00,839
balloons that equivalent type argument

1079
00:46:05,630 --> 00:46:03,839
it was a misidentifications of Venus or

1080
00:46:07,849 --> 00:46:05,640
ridiculous explanations like we've heard

1081
00:46:09,650 --> 00:46:07,859
the whole time the same people the same

1082
00:46:12,290 --> 00:46:09,660
explanations have been applied to these

1083
00:46:14,690 --> 00:46:12,300
Cryptids people the law enforcement Park

1084
00:46:17,390 --> 00:46:14,700
Rangers will always say you saw a bear

1085
00:46:20,089 --> 00:46:17,400
or if it's dog man they say well you saw

1086
00:46:21,950 --> 00:46:20,099
a pack of wolves or something or wild

1087
00:46:23,870 --> 00:46:21,960
dogs and you're you've been traumatized

1088
00:46:25,490 --> 00:46:23,880
so you're imagining I don't think that's

1089
00:46:27,890 --> 00:46:25,500
true just like you said earlier in the

1090
00:46:29,630 --> 00:46:27,900
show the reports are too consistent and

1091
00:46:32,210 --> 00:46:29,640
that I think is very

1092
00:46:34,130 --> 00:46:32,220
challenging for our ego mind to accept

1093
00:46:35,930 --> 00:46:34,140
that there's life right outside your

1094
00:46:37,970 --> 00:46:35,940
door that's probably a lot better at

1095
00:46:39,829 --> 00:46:37,980
some things than you are and they can

1096
00:46:42,170 --> 00:46:39,839
stay hidden if they want to that's

1097
00:46:43,970 --> 00:46:42,180
something that's a tall order for many

1098
00:46:45,470 --> 00:46:43,980
of us to accept even for myself it took

1099
00:46:47,390 --> 00:46:45,480
a long time to realize when you go out

1100
00:46:50,510 --> 00:46:47,400
there there can be things that see you

1101
00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:50,520
but you can't see them yeah and when

1102
00:46:55,970 --> 00:46:52,800
when these two realities these two

1103
00:46:58,730 --> 00:46:55,980
frequencies you know they cross and and

1104
00:47:01,670 --> 00:46:58,740
and for a moment in time they are

1105
00:47:03,410 --> 00:47:01,680
visible to each other yeah and we see

1106
00:47:05,809 --> 00:47:03,420
Bigfoot we jump

1107
00:47:08,210 --> 00:47:05,819
does Bigfoot do the same thing are they

1108
00:47:10,130 --> 00:47:08,220
just as startled and surprised to see us

1109
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:10,140
in their reality

1110
00:47:15,050 --> 00:47:12,240
yeah there do seem to be times when

1111
00:47:17,569 --> 00:47:15,060
they're surprised by people

1112
00:47:19,550 --> 00:47:17,579
um that's when you can sometimes get a

1113
00:47:22,190 --> 00:47:19,560
kind of a hostile reaction if they don't

1114
00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:22,200
want you around and they didn't see you

1115
00:47:25,309 --> 00:47:24,000
uh showing up you know you've had these

1116
00:47:27,290 --> 00:47:25,319
people who said they were about to take

1117
00:47:30,050 --> 00:47:27,300
a picture of them and the lens fell off

1118
00:47:31,609 --> 00:47:30,060
made a clunking sound and even though

1119
00:47:34,970 --> 00:47:31,619
those creatures could have been a half

1120
00:47:36,950 --> 00:47:34,980
mile away they suddenly turned and start

1121
00:47:38,569 --> 00:47:36,960
coming in your direction and all of a

1122
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:38,579
sudden they're running in your direction

1123
00:47:42,530 --> 00:47:40,800
and some of those people you know that

1124
00:47:44,030 --> 00:47:42,540
what they describe is losing

1125
00:47:47,270 --> 00:47:44,040
consciousness

1126
00:47:48,829 --> 00:47:47,280
uh just experiencing a level of fright

1127
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:48,839
that they didn't couldn't imagine was

1128
00:47:52,569 --> 00:47:50,640
possible I think you can surprise them

1129
00:47:55,010 --> 00:47:52,579
but more often it's the other way around

1130
00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:55,020
they saw you there and you didn't see

1131
00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:56,640
them and uh

1132
00:48:01,309 --> 00:47:59,280
and some day often travel in groups and

1133
00:48:05,290 --> 00:48:01,319
and sometimes the ones that come close

1134
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:05,300
to you are just possibly distracting you

1135
00:48:08,990 --> 00:48:07,440
I'm just generalizing here because

1136
00:48:10,550 --> 00:48:09,000
there's so many types of encounters

1137
00:48:13,069 --> 00:48:10,560
you're familiar with Ron Moorhead right

1138
00:48:15,530 --> 00:48:13,079
the Sierra sounds uh-huh yep so when I

1139
00:48:17,450 --> 00:48:15,540
interviewed Ron on my YouTube channel he

1140
00:48:20,089 --> 00:48:17,460
said even though they could hear them on

1141
00:48:21,530 --> 00:48:20,099
the other side of the wall arguing in

1142
00:48:23,150 --> 00:48:21,540
their they have a language it sounds

1143
00:48:25,849 --> 00:48:23,160
some people call it like reverse Samurai

1144
00:48:29,050 --> 00:48:25,859
it's like a very staccato percussive

1145
00:48:32,690 --> 00:48:29,060
sort of Asian sounding language

1146
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:32,700
John Belushi on Saturday Night Live

1147
00:48:36,770 --> 00:48:35,280
you remember the samurai dude and he

1148
00:48:38,990 --> 00:48:36,780
would go into that that's that's what

1149
00:48:41,390 --> 00:48:39,000
that sounded like to me so

1150
00:48:42,829 --> 00:48:41,400
Ron Moore had said you they would peek

1151
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:42,839
their head out of their structure you

1152
00:48:46,010 --> 00:48:44,400
never would see them it was like they

1153
00:48:48,050 --> 00:48:46,020
were invisible they could hear them on

1154
00:48:50,930 --> 00:48:48,060
the they had the mics and the walls

1155
00:48:52,910 --> 00:48:50,940
they it was there right there they

1156
00:48:54,290 --> 00:48:52,920
didn't cast Shadows on the hunting

1157
00:48:56,089 --> 00:48:54,300
structure even though the sun was behind

1158
00:48:58,370 --> 00:48:56,099
them they couldn't see them

1159
00:49:00,410 --> 00:48:58,380
just a huge amount of variation in the

1160
00:49:01,970 --> 00:49:00,420
experience it's almost like and Ron said

1161
00:49:04,849 --> 00:49:01,980
in nine visits up there to the High

1162
00:49:07,010 --> 00:49:04,859
Sierras he only saw one once at a

1163
00:49:08,750 --> 00:49:07,020
distance way in the distance just going

1164
00:49:10,910 --> 00:49:08,760
the other direction so it seems more

1165
00:49:13,730 --> 00:49:10,920
often to answer your question they're

1166
00:49:15,410 --> 00:49:13,740
well aware of you but if you know you're

1167
00:49:17,510 --> 00:49:15,420
probably not aware that they're there

1168
00:49:20,690 --> 00:49:17,520
unless they make sounds or want to be

1169
00:49:24,290 --> 00:49:20,700
known Moorhead I'm glad you interviewed

1170
00:49:29,150 --> 00:49:24,300
him he said one thing uh that that

1171
00:49:33,230 --> 00:49:29,160
really struck home to me he said he felt

1172
00:49:37,790 --> 00:49:33,240
like the the it was too Bigfoot arguing

1173
00:49:40,670 --> 00:49:37,800
yeah right that it was conversational it

1174
00:49:43,849 --> 00:49:40,680
was a language and they were arguing

1175
00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:43,859
um probably arguing over Moorhead as far

1176
00:49:47,870 --> 00:49:45,599
as I know they were having an argument

1177
00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:47,880
yeah like who gets to go into the

1178
00:49:51,890 --> 00:49:50,160
hunting Ron made a joke about it who

1179
00:49:54,829 --> 00:49:51,900
gets to go in and eat the humans first

1180
00:49:58,130 --> 00:49:54,839
and he's kidding because Ron only had

1181
00:50:00,290 --> 00:49:58,140
for the most part peaceful encounters

1182
00:50:01,609 --> 00:50:00,300
with them he's you you've heard what he

1183
00:50:03,170 --> 00:50:01,619
had to say sometimes it sounded like

1184
00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:03,180
they were taking the camp apart metal

1185
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:05,520
hitting metal things being thrown around

1186
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:07,200
like the they'd go out in the morning

1187
00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:09,119
everything was fine nothing had moved

1188
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:12,720
like they can generate these sounds in

1189
00:50:16,609 --> 00:50:14,880
the most interesting ways metallic sort

1190
00:50:18,770 --> 00:50:16,619
of they can imitate any sound that we

1191
00:50:21,710 --> 00:50:18,780
can make they can sound like you're a

1192
00:50:23,390 --> 00:50:21,720
dog or a relative calling for you they

1193
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:23,400
can make you kind of fool you they're

1194
00:50:29,329 --> 00:50:25,200
the Native Americans said that they were

1195
00:50:32,210 --> 00:50:29,339
ventriloquists uh but Ron also mentioned

1196
00:50:33,950 --> 00:50:32,220
strange looking luminous objects moving

1197
00:50:37,130 --> 00:50:33,960
through the forest one looked like a

1198
00:50:39,530 --> 00:50:37,140
lightsaber from Star Wars and that

1199
00:50:42,470 --> 00:50:39,540
tuning fork sound right above the honey

1200
00:50:44,210 --> 00:50:42,480
this is why these all go together these

1201
00:50:46,010 --> 00:50:44,220
phenomena even if some people would like

1202
00:50:48,650 --> 00:50:46,020
it to be separate to people that are on

1203
00:50:51,829 --> 00:50:48,660
the Relic primate category who want this

1204
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:51,839
just to be gigantopithecus Blacky right

1205
00:50:55,849 --> 00:50:54,000
there's no evidence that that animal

1206
00:50:58,430 --> 00:50:55,859
ever came across the Bering Straits

1207
00:50:59,870 --> 00:50:58,440
there's no bones or any any evidence

1208
00:51:02,150 --> 00:50:59,880
that that creature is here but they

1209
00:51:05,150 --> 00:51:02,160
wanted to be that and and how do we

1210
00:51:07,250 --> 00:51:05,160
explain that part of it and not only you

1211
00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:07,260
know the lack of bodies or DNA or bones

1212
00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:10,559
I mean that's obvious uh uh an obvious

1213
00:51:14,210 --> 00:51:12,000
thing to point out but it's something

1214
00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:14,220
that needs to be discussed but I think

1215
00:51:21,290 --> 00:51:17,760
there's another Step Beyond that which

1216
00:51:23,329 --> 00:51:21,300
is they've got to be communal uh there's

1217
00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:23,339
got to be a husband and wife and

1218
00:51:27,650 --> 00:51:26,400
Offspring living together uh and so

1219
00:51:31,490 --> 00:51:27,660
where are

1220
00:51:32,710 --> 00:51:31,500
the communities why aren't we coming

1221
00:51:38,569 --> 00:51:32,720
upon

1222
00:51:41,329 --> 00:51:38,579
uh a cave with belongings in it or or a

1223
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:41,339
nesting site with three or four nests

1224
00:51:46,370 --> 00:51:44,160
and and things and and some animal bones

1225
00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:46,380
left over you know what I mean a Bigfoot

1226
00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:48,480
Community we haven't we haven't found

1227
00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:50,640
that

1228
00:51:55,490 --> 00:51:52,880
yeah the American Indians talked about

1229
00:51:57,470 --> 00:51:55,500
groups of them and you know if they had

1230
00:51:59,990 --> 00:51:57,480
peaceful relations they described them

1231
00:52:03,650 --> 00:52:00,000
as just another tribe a very tall hairy

1232
00:52:06,130 --> 00:52:03,660
Giants and and we do have many years of

1233
00:52:08,930 --> 00:52:06,140
reports going back through the 1800s of

1234
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:08,940
skeletons of giants being found

1235
00:52:12,049 --> 00:52:10,800
throughout the United States especially

1236
00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:12,059
in the Southwest

1237
00:52:15,950 --> 00:52:13,920
and that could be what we're talking

1238
00:52:17,750 --> 00:52:15,960
about there's another possibility based

1239
00:52:20,809 --> 00:52:17,760
on the witness accounts that I've read

1240
00:52:22,250 --> 00:52:20,819
is that the evidence is being destroyed

1241
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:22,260
or buried

1242
00:52:26,030 --> 00:52:24,480
uh in national parks and so forth

1243
00:52:27,710 --> 00:52:26,040
because they just don't want it the

1244
00:52:30,049 --> 00:52:27,720
bureaucracy doesn't want to deal with it

1245
00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:30,059
they wanted to be someone else's problem

1246
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:32,880
they they're just bearing the evidence

1247
00:52:37,250 --> 00:52:35,040
and uh

1248
00:52:38,930 --> 00:52:37,260
they don't want to deal with it or in

1249
00:52:41,210 --> 00:52:38,940
other cases people have described being

1250
00:52:43,250 --> 00:52:41,220
an archaeological digs coming across

1251
00:52:45,290 --> 00:52:43,260
these huge bones and just finding it so

1252
00:52:48,650 --> 00:52:45,300
frightening they just wanted to leave

1253
00:52:51,650 --> 00:52:48,660
so when I was when I was a kid I've told

1254
00:52:53,270 --> 00:52:51,660
the story so many times but uh you bring

1255
00:52:57,170 --> 00:52:53,280
up a great point so I'm going to share

1256
00:53:01,510 --> 00:52:57,180
this with you I was in fifth grade

1257
00:53:05,870 --> 00:53:01,520
okay so I'm nine nine years old Chicago

1258
00:53:07,549 --> 00:53:05,880
and we're going to the field museum in

1259
00:53:09,950 --> 00:53:07,559
Chicago one of the great greatest

1260
00:53:13,309 --> 00:53:09,960
museums in the world no doubt no doubt

1261
00:53:14,930 --> 00:53:13,319
about it and I have the brochure teacher

1262
00:53:17,089 --> 00:53:14,940
hands out the brochures to the class I

1263
00:53:21,770 --> 00:53:17,099
got the brochure to the field museum

1264
00:53:26,030 --> 00:53:21,780
and on the cover of the brochure was the

1265
00:53:26,809 --> 00:53:26,040
skeleton of I've it was like a 10-foot

1266
00:53:28,609 --> 00:53:26,819
human

1267
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:28,619
or something you know but it was there

1268
00:53:32,990 --> 00:53:30,000
and it was on the camera man I can't

1269
00:53:36,170 --> 00:53:33,000
wait to see the giant skeleton this is

1270
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:36,180
great so we get to the field museum you

1271
00:53:41,809 --> 00:53:38,640
know a month later I've lost sleep over

1272
00:53:44,450 --> 00:53:41,819
this I'm excited and and I'm like

1273
00:53:45,470 --> 00:53:44,460
where's the giant skeleton what are you

1274
00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:45,480
talking about

1275
00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:47,760
the the giant skeleton though it's on

1276
00:53:50,630 --> 00:53:48,960
the cover of the brochure there's no

1277
00:53:54,049 --> 00:53:50,640
giant skeleton here

1278
00:53:57,290 --> 00:53:54,059
and I was so confused now I have gone

1279
00:53:58,910 --> 00:53:57,300
back as an adult as a researcher I can't

1280
00:54:01,910 --> 00:53:58,920
find a word about that

1281
00:54:04,010 --> 00:54:01,920
I can't and I say myself you saw it

1282
00:54:06,109 --> 00:54:04,020
yourself right and we're told a lot of

1283
00:54:09,230 --> 00:54:06,119
these skeletons went to the Smithsonian

1284
00:54:11,630 --> 00:54:09,240
over the decades and yet they claim now

1285
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:11,640
they don't have any of them so

1286
00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:13,680
I wouldn't be surprised if the evidence

1287
00:54:18,770 --> 00:54:16,800
is being suppressed it's very easy to do

1288
00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:18,780
suppress evidence it's easier than you

1289
00:54:22,010 --> 00:54:20,160
would think because the scientific

1290
00:54:24,109 --> 00:54:22,020
community at large doesn't want their

1291
00:54:26,329 --> 00:54:24,119
Paradigm challenged and they would have

1292
00:54:28,430 --> 00:54:26,339
an interest in doing this uh we're going

1293
00:54:32,650 --> 00:54:28,440
to hit a break in about five minutes

1294
00:54:37,549 --> 00:54:32,660
um and we'll carry over uh this question

1295
00:54:40,910 --> 00:54:37,559
how often do we hear about a UFO

1296
00:54:43,089 --> 00:54:40,920
sighting in a Bigfoot sighting happening

1297
00:54:45,950 --> 00:54:43,099
on the same night

1298
00:54:47,930 --> 00:54:45,960
there there those reports exist and

1299
00:54:49,250 --> 00:54:47,940
against Dan Gordon

1300
00:54:52,010 --> 00:54:49,260
who we're actually going to be talking

1301
00:54:54,290 --> 00:54:52,020
to tomorrow in my Bigfoot Cryptid Zoom

1302
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:54,300
group we've invited him to talk he's

1303
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:56,640
written about this and this again was

1304
00:55:01,849 --> 00:54:59,760
one of the biggest challenging types of

1305
00:55:04,130 --> 00:55:01,859
ideas that I encounter they even talk

1306
00:55:06,890 --> 00:55:04,140
about Bigfoot getting out of these craft

1307
00:55:08,510 --> 00:55:06,900
right what is going on there your mind

1308
00:55:10,250 --> 00:55:08,520
wants it to be some sort of escaped

1309
00:55:14,270 --> 00:55:10,260
gorilla you think of it as being less

1310
00:55:16,190 --> 00:55:14,280
evolved than we are but that's just our

1311
00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:16,200
own mental projection there's very

1312
00:55:19,910 --> 00:55:18,240
they're much more than that and they're

1313
00:55:21,950 --> 00:55:19,920
more evolved than we are in some ways

1314
00:55:24,589 --> 00:55:21,960
and perhaps they're on that same

1315
00:55:26,089 --> 00:55:24,599
frequency with extraterrestrials or

1316
00:55:27,890 --> 00:55:26,099
something like that who's ever in those

1317
00:55:30,109 --> 00:55:27,900
crafts but no they are reported together

1318
00:55:33,950 --> 00:55:30,119
and this is what Stan Gordon has talked

1319
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:33,960
about many times do you um uh

1320
00:55:40,450 --> 00:55:37,920
are you open to the idea that maybe

1321
00:55:43,910 --> 00:55:40,460
uh Bigfoot is completely

1322
00:55:46,010 --> 00:55:43,920
extraterrestrial and arrived on this

1323
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:46,020
planet from another planet and it's a

1324
00:55:52,609 --> 00:55:48,720
species that has been doing its thing

1325
00:55:54,049 --> 00:55:52,619
for millions of years and it's in a

1326
00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:54,059
different frequency they're

1327
00:55:59,450 --> 00:55:56,640
extraterrestrial and we're just not

1328
00:56:02,410 --> 00:55:59,460
meant to see them

1329
00:56:06,470 --> 00:56:02,420
well there's always the possibility that

1330
00:56:09,470 --> 00:56:06,480
life on Earth was brought here from

1331
00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:09,480
another place the so-called pan spermia

1332
00:56:14,630 --> 00:56:12,240
idea and if they were part of that I

1333
00:56:17,210 --> 00:56:14,640
could see it that way but the fact that

1334
00:56:19,010 --> 00:56:17,220
they're so physically similar to us

1335
00:56:22,849 --> 00:56:19,020
leads me to believe

1336
00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:22,859
that they're the indigenous hominoid

1337
00:56:27,950 --> 00:56:25,440
or hominid depending how you look at it

1338
00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:27,960
and that they evolved in a different

1339
00:56:32,690 --> 00:56:29,760
direction than we did we became very

1340
00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:32,700
technological and mechanistic and they

1341
00:56:38,270 --> 00:56:34,880
stayed on a path of working with

1342
00:56:40,730 --> 00:56:38,280
Nature's internal types of energy and

1343
00:56:42,410 --> 00:56:40,740
systems a different type of physics

1344
00:56:45,170 --> 00:56:42,420
something more along the line of Nikola

1345
00:56:47,390 --> 00:56:45,180
Tesla it's part of nature so they didn't

1346
00:56:49,549 --> 00:56:47,400
need physical technology we already see

1347
00:56:51,049 --> 00:56:49,559
it in lightning in plasmas and orbs and

1348
00:56:53,089 --> 00:56:51,059
ball lightning they learned how to

1349
00:56:55,970 --> 00:56:53,099
develop all of that resonant type of

1350
00:56:57,410 --> 00:56:55,980
Technology just my opinion and they went

1351
00:57:00,170 --> 00:56:57,420
off in a different direction which gave

1352
00:57:02,630 --> 00:57:00,180
them the invisibility Advantage we went

1353
00:57:06,890 --> 00:57:02,640
in the direction of cars and rocket

1354
00:57:08,690 --> 00:57:06,900
ships and homes and technology and we

1355
00:57:10,849 --> 00:57:08,700
consider ourselves to be the more

1356
00:57:12,410 --> 00:57:10,859
evolved species here but I don't think

1357
00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:12,420
that's necessarily the case that's just

1358
00:57:15,290 --> 00:57:14,160
our Collective ego thinking that we're

1359
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the best

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thing on the planet that might not be

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true

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is that why orbs are nearly connected to

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Bigfoot like in in nearly every sighting

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right I mean I've talked to these

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Witnesses here in Colorado and they said

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they've seen Bigfoot emerge from orbs

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00:57:40,010 --> 00:57:37,619
just like they can sometimes emerge or

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be seen around UFOs they come out of

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they see the orbs first and they see the

1370
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Bigfoot almost emerge from the orb

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people have reported the Bigfoot holding

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orbs so this is why I think they're

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connected this is a natural type of

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Tesla technology through sound and

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resonance they're able to produce some

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sort of frequency and sound which can

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literally generate

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coherent matter

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and this is the basis for orbs and ball

1380
00:58:08,089 --> 00:58:06,180
lightning and all sorts of paranormal

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00:58:09,710 --> 00:58:08,099
phenomena and this is why they're so

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heavily connected to what we call

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paranormal and when we come back I want

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to talk about ball lightning our guests

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tonight Dr Simeon Hein Simeon stay right

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there we'll be right back after this

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1478
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Hein we're talking Bigfoot tonight and

1479
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uh Simeon right before the break

1480
01:02:10,670 --> 01:02:07,260
um you mentioned ball lightning one of

1481
01:02:12,829 --> 01:02:10,680
the most elusive things now we've seen

1482
01:02:15,470 --> 01:02:12,839
it in Wood Cuts we've seen it in

1483
01:02:18,410 --> 01:02:15,480
illustrations this isn't a new

1484
01:02:20,630 --> 01:02:18,420
phenomenon it's been witnessed but

1485
01:02:22,849 --> 01:02:20,640
scientifically

1486
01:02:25,730 --> 01:02:22,859
that's almost paranormal that's like

1487
01:02:28,250 --> 01:02:25,740
fringe science when you get into this

1488
01:02:30,650 --> 01:02:28,260
um help help me understand what is ball

1489
01:02:36,410 --> 01:02:30,660
lightning

1490
01:02:38,150 --> 01:02:36,420
Beyond ordinary states of matter we're

1491
01:02:40,670 --> 01:02:38,160
all familiar with the ordinary states of

1492
01:02:43,130 --> 01:02:40,680
matter solid liquid gases right and

1493
01:02:46,370 --> 01:02:43,140
we're familiar with plasmas which are

1494
01:02:48,289 --> 01:02:46,380
electrically charged gases which are the

1495
01:02:49,730 --> 01:02:48,299
most common form of matter in the

1496
01:02:54,170 --> 01:02:49,740
universe plasmas you know lightning

1497
01:02:55,490 --> 01:02:54,180
Aurora Borealis right fluorescent bulbs

1498
01:02:57,470 --> 01:02:55,500
uh

1499
01:02:59,030 --> 01:02:57,480
little Sparks that you see here and

1500
01:03:01,549 --> 01:02:59,040
there but there's another state of

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01:03:04,490 --> 01:03:01,559
matter Beyond plasmas and that is

1502
01:03:08,690 --> 01:03:04,500
self-organized plasmas coherent matter

1503
01:03:10,910 --> 01:03:08,700
and what ball lightning appears to be is

1504
01:03:14,170 --> 01:03:10,920
a type of matter where all the particles

1505
01:03:17,750 --> 01:03:14,180
have given up their individual identity

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01:03:19,250 --> 01:03:17,760
and are at the same frequency and the

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01:03:23,690 --> 01:03:19,260
same temperature

1508
01:03:26,690 --> 01:03:23,700
so they're able to maintain a type of

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01:03:29,450 --> 01:03:26,700
macroscopic

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01:03:33,530 --> 01:03:29,460
Quantum coherent Behavior

1511
01:03:35,510 --> 01:03:33,540
and when they do that they're able to

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01:03:37,910 --> 01:03:35,520
access types of

1513
01:03:40,250 --> 01:03:37,920
physical properties that ordinary matter

1514
01:03:41,950 --> 01:03:40,260
can't access they're extremely

1515
01:03:45,710 --> 01:03:41,960
compressed

1516
01:03:47,930 --> 01:03:45,720
they can transmute elements

1517
01:03:49,670 --> 01:03:47,940
ball lightning for the most part is at

1518
01:03:53,930 --> 01:03:49,680
room temperature

1519
01:03:55,970 --> 01:03:53,940
it can melt metals or at least turn

1520
01:03:57,589 --> 01:03:55,980
Metals into a type of putty when it

1521
01:03:58,910 --> 01:03:57,599
seemed to go through like a window frame

1522
01:04:00,049 --> 01:03:58,920
an aluminum window frame or something

1523
01:04:02,569 --> 01:04:00,059
like this

1524
01:04:04,190 --> 01:04:02,579
and so ball lightning Jimmy can be some

1525
01:04:06,589 --> 01:04:04,200
is something that we as you mentioned

1526
01:04:09,770 --> 01:04:06,599
it's been in Wood Cuts it's been seen

1527
01:04:12,049 --> 01:04:09,780
for as long as we've been around here it

1528
01:04:15,049 --> 01:04:12,059
is the product of thunderstorms but it

1529
01:04:17,390 --> 01:04:15,059
can exist on its own Beyond

1530
01:04:19,670 --> 01:04:17,400
thunderstorms anytime you time you get a

1531
01:04:22,730 --> 01:04:19,680
type of compressed matter whether it's

1532
01:04:24,829 --> 01:04:22,740
through Sonic compression or physical

1533
01:04:26,930 --> 01:04:24,839
compression like you get in plate

1534
01:04:29,030 --> 01:04:26,940
tectonics of earthquakes where you get

1535
01:04:32,690 --> 01:04:29,040
so-called Earth lights

1536
01:04:37,190 --> 01:04:32,700
or in Laboratories when you find ways of

1537
01:04:40,069 --> 01:04:37,200
compressing matter and uh getting it to

1538
01:04:43,010 --> 01:04:40,079
resonate you can create this Quantum

1539
01:04:45,710 --> 01:04:43,020
coherent matter which it has its own

1540
01:04:47,510 --> 01:04:45,720
types of physics and people uh Ken

1541
01:04:50,390 --> 01:04:47,520
shoulders who is a colleague of Hal put

1542
01:04:53,390 --> 01:04:50,400
off spent a lot of time studying

1543
01:04:54,910 --> 01:04:53,400
microball lightning after he was

1544
01:04:57,470 --> 01:04:54,920
developing

1545
01:05:00,289 --> 01:04:57,480
electronics for the NSA at Stanford

1546
01:05:02,270 --> 01:05:00,299
Research Institute in the 1960s in

1547
01:05:04,370 --> 01:05:02,280
classified research that became the

1548
01:05:07,270 --> 01:05:04,380
basis of the electronics that we all use

1549
01:05:10,309 --> 01:05:07,280
nowadays micro masking techniques for

1550
01:05:12,650 --> 01:05:10,319
microelectronics when he looked at his

1551
01:05:15,410 --> 01:05:12,660
you know Electronics experiments under

1552
01:05:18,470 --> 01:05:15,420
electron microscopes he saw micro ball

1553
01:05:20,930 --> 01:05:18,480
lightning so what we now believe is that

1554
01:05:23,150 --> 01:05:20,940
this type of phenomena exists at a micro

1555
01:05:25,609 --> 01:05:23,160
scale or at the largest Scale of the

1556
01:05:28,130 --> 01:05:25,619
Universe it even exists in things

1557
01:05:31,010 --> 01:05:28,140
possibly like tornadoes which gives them

1558
01:05:33,170 --> 01:05:31,020
this very strong type of force that we

1559
01:05:35,390 --> 01:05:33,180
don't normally see in in thermodynamics

1560
01:05:36,770 --> 01:05:35,400
and vacuums and so forth so it's a very

1561
01:05:38,630 --> 01:05:36,780
interesting state of matter when we see

1562
01:05:40,670 --> 01:05:38,640
it it can be ionizing the air which is

1563
01:05:43,870 --> 01:05:40,680
why it glows but here's the thing about

1564
01:05:46,069 --> 01:05:43,880
ball lightning Jimmy all the researchers

1565
01:05:48,230 --> 01:05:46,079
who've studied this and there's been a

1566
01:05:50,089 --> 01:05:48,240
ton of Russian Research into this topic

1567
01:05:52,010 --> 01:05:50,099
much more than in the US since Nikola

1568
01:05:54,589 --> 01:05:52,020
Tesla started looking into this and

1569
01:05:56,990 --> 01:05:54,599
others even before him who unfortunately

1570
01:05:58,849 --> 01:05:57,000
World War one came along a lot of those

1571
01:06:01,130 --> 01:05:58,859
ball lightning researchers were killed

1572
01:06:03,289 --> 01:06:01,140
on the front lines in World War one so

1573
01:06:05,809 --> 01:06:03,299
we think of Tesla being associated with

1574
01:06:09,710 --> 01:06:05,819
it mostly but a lot of these researchers

1575
01:06:10,789 --> 01:06:09,720
say that it has a black mode a stealth

1576
01:06:13,670 --> 01:06:10,799
mode

1577
01:06:16,609 --> 01:06:13,680
even John Ramirez the former CIA

1578
01:06:19,190 --> 01:06:16,619
missiles signal analyst who's gone been

1579
01:06:22,370 --> 01:06:19,200
on many podcasts and shows

1580
01:06:24,410 --> 01:06:22,380
said that they saw these objects in the

1581
01:06:27,470 --> 01:06:24,420
atmosphere that they described as

1582
01:06:30,170 --> 01:06:27,480
stealth plasma which would be a type of

1583
01:06:31,910 --> 01:06:30,180
orb or very similar to ball lightning so

1584
01:06:34,609 --> 01:06:31,920
it takes a lot of different forms but it

1585
01:06:36,349 --> 01:06:34,619
has a visible form and an invisible form

1586
01:06:39,190 --> 01:06:36,359
and the main thing that we need to

1587
01:06:41,270 --> 01:06:39,200
understand about orbs and ball lightning

1588
01:06:43,190 --> 01:06:41,280
researchers like Ken shoulders have

1589
01:06:45,410 --> 01:06:43,200
talked about this they exist in their

1590
01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:45,420
own reality just like the topics we were

1591
01:06:49,069 --> 01:06:47,280
talking about before the break they're

1592
01:06:51,049 --> 01:06:49,079
in a different type of space time they

1593
01:06:53,329 --> 01:06:51,059
literally change space time

1594
01:06:55,309 --> 01:06:53,339
and this is why reports of ball

1595
01:06:57,549 --> 01:06:55,319
lightning if you look a hundred years

1596
01:07:01,250 --> 01:06:57,559
ago 200 years ago

1597
01:07:03,109 --> 01:07:01,260
Francois arago in France or Walter

1598
01:07:05,089 --> 01:07:03,119
Brandon Germany 1920s who've written

1599
01:07:08,750 --> 01:07:05,099
about ball lightning they said it could

1600
01:07:10,609 --> 01:07:08,760
transport animals and people

1601
01:07:13,370 --> 01:07:10,619
we're not talking about ordinary physics

1602
01:07:17,569 --> 01:07:13,380
here we're talking about something that

1603
01:07:20,390 --> 01:07:17,579
can modify space time and gravity which

1604
01:07:23,210 --> 01:07:20,400
is why it's been such a subject of

1605
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:23,220
classified government research I should

1606
01:07:28,010 --> 01:07:25,200
just say the Air Force the latest Air

1607
01:07:29,750 --> 01:07:28,020
Force study of ball lightning done by

1608
01:07:31,750 --> 01:07:29,760
none other than the Eric Davis Eric

1609
01:07:34,789 --> 01:07:31,760
Davis we know from the Wilson Davis

1610
01:07:37,069 --> 01:07:34,799
memos yeah he authored this ball

1611
01:07:38,750 --> 01:07:37,079
lightning report for the Air Force and

1612
01:07:41,690 --> 01:07:38,760
if you read through it

1613
01:07:43,670 --> 01:07:41,700
more than half of it is redacted

1614
01:07:45,529 --> 01:07:43,680
it's just white it out Stanton Friedman

1615
01:07:47,450 --> 01:07:45,539
used to joke about they don't black

1616
01:07:50,089 --> 01:07:47,460
things out anymore they they white it

1617
01:07:52,270 --> 01:07:50,099
out it's all white it out why would you

1618
01:07:55,609 --> 01:07:52,280
have redacted

1619
01:07:57,289 --> 01:07:55,619
pages about ball lightning if it's just

1620
01:07:59,690 --> 01:07:57,299
a natural phenomenon if it doesn't have

1621
01:08:02,750 --> 01:07:59,700
some technological application

1622
01:08:03,710 --> 01:08:02,760
are you suggesting

1623
01:08:06,529 --> 01:08:03,720
um

1624
01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:06,539
a new state of matter almost like dark

1625
01:08:11,150 --> 01:08:08,640
matter I mean dark matter is called dark

1626
01:08:14,630 --> 01:08:11,160
matter because it doesn't emit light

1627
01:08:17,390 --> 01:08:14,640
right so that's right

1628
01:08:19,490 --> 01:08:17,400
very important point to me and that's

1629
01:08:20,809 --> 01:08:19,500
why I'm just a little moment of

1630
01:08:23,470 --> 01:08:20,819
self-promotion that's why my latest book

1631
01:08:26,930 --> 01:08:23,480
is called Dark Matter monsters because

1632
01:08:30,530 --> 01:08:26,940
the the ball lightning researchers

1633
01:08:32,749 --> 01:08:30,540
realized that the condensed type of

1634
01:08:35,570 --> 01:08:32,759
coherent matter you have in ball

1635
01:08:37,849 --> 01:08:35,580
lightning and orbs and even microscopic

1636
01:08:40,669 --> 01:08:37,859
ball lightning that people like takayaki

1637
01:08:42,410 --> 01:08:40,679
Japanese researcher wrote about they all

1638
01:08:46,610 --> 01:08:42,420
came to the same conclusion

1639
01:08:48,709 --> 01:08:46,620
is that you create a type of magnetism

1640
01:08:50,950 --> 01:08:48,719
that Paul durac again we mentioned

1641
01:08:53,689 --> 01:08:50,960
earlier called magnetic monopoles

1642
01:08:55,249 --> 01:08:53,699
magnetism without a North and the South

1643
01:08:57,110 --> 01:08:55,259
just pure magnetism kind of like

1644
01:08:59,689 --> 01:08:57,120
electricity you can like turn up the

1645
01:09:01,490 --> 01:08:59,699
knob on electricity we've never figured

1646
01:09:03,110 --> 01:09:01,500
out a way to do that with magnetism

1647
01:09:05,450 --> 01:09:03,120
because it has to have a north and a

1648
01:09:09,370 --> 01:09:05,460
South Pole but magnetic monopoles are

1649
01:09:12,650 --> 01:09:09,380
just magnetism with no north or south

1650
01:09:14,030 --> 01:09:12,660
coherent matter generates magnetic

1651
01:09:16,789 --> 01:09:14,040
monopoles

1652
01:09:19,189 --> 01:09:16,799
and the and which is what Paul Direct

1653
01:09:22,249 --> 01:09:19,199
speculated had to exist based on quantum

1654
01:09:23,930 --> 01:09:22,259
mechanics way back in the 1920s and now

1655
01:09:25,970 --> 01:09:23,940
we've seen evidence for it Science

1656
01:09:27,769 --> 01:09:25,980
magazine which I read all the time has

1657
01:09:31,070 --> 01:09:27,779
reported evidence for magnetic modules

1658
01:09:34,070 --> 01:09:31,080
magnetic monopoles interact with dark

1659
01:09:35,930 --> 01:09:34,080
matter and anything that interacts with

1660
01:09:37,789 --> 01:09:35,940
dark matter is going to have a whole

1661
01:09:40,010 --> 01:09:37,799
different set of properties than we're

1662
01:09:43,630 --> 01:09:40,020
used to an ordinary matter it's going to

1663
01:09:46,309 --> 01:09:43,640
have these abilities for transmutation

1664
01:09:47,749 --> 01:09:46,319
invisibility this is why we suspect so

1665
01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:47,759
much of the Air Force report on ball

1666
01:09:52,789 --> 01:09:50,880
lightning was redacted it gets into

1667
01:09:54,790 --> 01:09:52,799
these areas that have all sorts of

1668
01:09:57,950 --> 01:09:54,800
military applications

1669
01:10:01,130 --> 01:09:57,960
but dark matter since you brought it up

1670
01:10:04,370 --> 01:10:01,140
it's a material that scientists say have

1671
01:10:07,010 --> 01:10:04,380
to exist based on the behavior of

1672
01:10:09,110 --> 01:10:07,020
galaxies and the way light moves and the

1673
01:10:11,689 --> 01:10:09,120
cosmic background radiation through the

1674
01:10:14,930 --> 01:10:11,699
universe to get to us it outnumbers

1675
01:10:18,410 --> 01:10:14,940
ordinary matter by like nine particles

1676
01:10:20,570 --> 01:10:18,420
to one yeah and it's not just out there

1677
01:10:22,790 --> 01:10:20,580
it's right here with us so if you can

1678
01:10:24,470 --> 01:10:22,800
create structures that organize dark

1679
01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:24,480
matter because it doesn't interact with

1680
01:10:27,950 --> 01:10:26,640
us it's hard to detect let's tell let

1681
01:10:29,390 --> 01:10:27,960
everyone know it's not easy to detect

1682
01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:29,400
Dark Matter it doesn't interact with us

1683
01:10:32,870 --> 01:10:31,199
electromagnetically but it has a

1684
01:10:35,410 --> 01:10:32,880
gravitational force but if you can

1685
01:10:38,810 --> 01:10:35,420
organize it into vortices and spirals

1686
01:10:40,970 --> 01:10:38,820
with coherent matter magnetic monopoles

1687
01:10:42,350 --> 01:10:40,980
and so forth and I know this is a lot to

1688
01:10:44,630 --> 01:10:42,360
swallow but this is what the research

1689
01:10:47,390 --> 01:10:44,640
shows for decades of Russian research

1690
01:10:49,850 --> 01:10:47,400
and other researchers you have very

1691
01:10:52,490 --> 01:10:49,860
potent types of matter that can

1692
01:10:56,209 --> 01:10:52,500
reorganize space-time and gravity now

1693
01:11:00,950 --> 01:10:56,219
there have been lots of reports of not

1694
01:11:05,050 --> 01:11:00,960
only Bigfoot stepping out of uh in orb

1695
01:11:08,090 --> 01:11:05,060
um and you're right about that that

1696
01:11:10,910 --> 01:11:08,100
apparently they were Transportation

1697
01:11:14,990 --> 01:11:10,920
methods all right we've also heard

1698
01:11:18,050 --> 01:11:15,000
reports of of balls of energy rolling up

1699
01:11:20,870 --> 01:11:18,060
a street and Witnesses going out and

1700
01:11:24,590 --> 01:11:20,880
looking at it there's a being on the

1701
01:11:27,649 --> 01:11:24,600
inside of it like cruising you know E.T

1702
01:11:29,930 --> 01:11:27,659
whatever it may be uh rolling up the

1703
01:11:32,030 --> 01:11:29,940
street but it's a ball of energy is that

1704
01:11:33,709 --> 01:11:32,040
what we're talking about here it's what

1705
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:33,719
we're talking about I talked to some

1706
01:11:38,030 --> 01:11:36,239
witnesses over in the UK that were on a

1707
01:11:39,410 --> 01:11:38,040
place called silberry Hill which is

1708
01:11:41,570 --> 01:11:39,420
right in the middle of crop circle

1709
01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:41,580
country there and they were just up

1710
01:11:45,229 --> 01:11:43,440
there camping one night where they said

1711
01:11:46,669 --> 01:11:45,239
it all this sounds so much like the

1712
01:11:49,790 --> 01:11:46,679
Bigfoot encounters it got

1713
01:11:51,649 --> 01:11:49,800
extraordinarily dark and a weird creepy

1714
01:11:52,790 --> 01:11:51,659
feeling came over them and they felt

1715
01:11:54,290 --> 01:11:52,800
like they should leave but they're

1716
01:11:55,729 --> 01:11:54,300
already at the top of this hill it's not

1717
01:11:56,630 --> 01:11:55,739
so easy to get down from there to the

1718
01:11:59,630 --> 01:11:56,640
parking lot

1719
01:12:01,790 --> 01:11:59,640
and they said these orbs came across the

1720
01:12:04,490 --> 01:12:01,800
field by the way these were witnessed by

1721
01:12:06,229 --> 01:12:04,500
other people who didn't know these folks

1722
01:12:07,550 --> 01:12:06,239
Paul and Sonia at the top of Silver Hill

1723
01:12:09,229 --> 01:12:07,560
at the time I've heard them lecture

1724
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:09,239
separately about this event they saw

1725
01:12:13,010 --> 01:12:10,800
these orbs come down and they said

1726
01:12:16,610 --> 01:12:13,020
within each of these they saw a bean

1727
01:12:17,689 --> 01:12:16,620
sitting inside the orb in a Lotus

1728
01:12:19,610 --> 01:12:17,699
position

1729
01:12:22,010 --> 01:12:19,620
I mean even when I heard this Jimmy it

1730
01:12:25,070 --> 01:12:22,020
was like this is like hard to

1731
01:12:27,050 --> 01:12:25,080
understand or accept but if you under

1732
01:12:28,790 --> 01:12:27,060
you know if you know that ball lightning

1733
01:12:30,669 --> 01:12:28,800
orbs have a different type of physics

1734
01:12:33,709 --> 01:12:30,679
going on within them

1735
01:12:37,130 --> 01:12:33,719
they have these properties that we

1736
01:12:39,050 --> 01:12:37,140
associate with UFOs with Cryptids and

1737
01:12:42,229 --> 01:12:39,060
other types of phenomena

1738
01:12:45,950 --> 01:12:42,239
that it seems all to make sense

1739
01:12:48,770 --> 01:12:45,960
I have uh I know I know a cop

1740
01:12:53,750 --> 01:12:48,780
and uh he was on patrol with his partner

1741
01:12:56,410 --> 01:12:53,760
uh uh about 30 40 years ago in the 70s

1742
01:12:59,090 --> 01:12:56,420
they're on Patrol Pacific Northwest

1743
01:13:02,689 --> 01:12:59,100
coastal town I don't want to get into

1744
01:13:05,270 --> 01:13:02,699
specific but he's told us told the story

1745
01:13:07,130 --> 01:13:05,280
on on this show

1746
01:13:10,450 --> 01:13:07,140
um and I I know him pretty well anyway

1747
01:13:13,790 --> 01:13:10,460
he said they were on patrol at night

1748
01:13:16,610 --> 01:13:13,800
and uh foot patrol they had just parked

1749
01:13:17,950 --> 01:13:16,620
their car and across the street Main

1750
01:13:21,950 --> 01:13:17,960
Street

1751
01:13:26,630 --> 01:13:21,960
on the uh between the first and second

1752
01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:26,640
floor of the building across the street

1753
01:13:34,610 --> 01:13:30,960
a ball of energy was rolling up the

1754
01:13:37,130 --> 01:13:34,620
ledge of the first story right between

1755
01:13:39,350 --> 01:13:37,140
the first and second story and it was

1756
01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:39,360
about three feet in diameter right and

1757
01:13:43,010 --> 01:13:41,040
it's a ball of light and they stop and

1758
01:13:46,310 --> 01:13:43,020
they look they're like what what is that

1759
01:13:47,870 --> 01:13:46,320
they he said dude there was an alien

1760
01:13:50,450 --> 01:13:47,880
inside of it

1761
01:13:53,870 --> 01:13:50,460
and we just stood there and watched it

1762
01:13:55,610 --> 01:13:53,880
roll up this building and and turn the

1763
01:13:57,169 --> 01:13:55,620
corner

1764
01:14:02,510 --> 01:13:57,179
it

1765
01:14:05,149 --> 01:14:02,520
heard from in the past which is

1766
01:14:07,490 --> 01:14:05,159
mythology and folklore and an urban

1767
01:14:10,310 --> 01:14:07,500
legend uh you know about ball lightning

1768
01:14:12,669 --> 01:14:10,320
but here we have this and I've heard

1769
01:14:15,950 --> 01:14:12,679
this kind of story over and over again

1770
01:14:18,890 --> 01:14:15,960
and I I often wonder if it is just

1771
01:14:21,350 --> 01:14:18,900
something very convenient that others

1772
01:14:24,890 --> 01:14:21,360
understand about nature and physics that

1773
01:14:26,810 --> 01:14:24,900
we don't have a grasp of yet

1774
01:14:29,450 --> 01:14:26,820
we don't have a grasp of it because

1775
01:14:31,010 --> 01:14:29,460
something in our educational system and

1776
01:14:32,870 --> 01:14:31,020
the organizations you and I grew up

1777
01:14:35,390 --> 01:14:32,880
around didn't want us to know about this

1778
01:14:37,669 --> 01:14:35,400
we weren't taught about this in school

1779
01:14:40,310 --> 01:14:37,679
but if you look at Nikola Tesla's

1780
01:14:41,750 --> 01:14:40,320
writings and everyone since him Winston

1781
01:14:44,450 --> 01:14:41,760
Bostick

1782
01:14:45,709 --> 01:14:44,460
was a government researcher working for

1783
01:14:48,050 --> 01:14:45,719
doe

1784
01:14:50,209 --> 01:14:48,060
finding peaceful useless of peaceful

1785
01:14:52,310 --> 01:14:50,219
uses of fusion power after World War II

1786
01:14:54,110 --> 01:14:52,320
right they wanted to turn you know

1787
01:14:56,209 --> 01:14:54,120
hydrogen bomb into something useful like

1788
01:14:59,689 --> 01:14:56,219
a type of propulsion or something he

1789
01:15:00,709 --> 01:14:59,699
concluded the same sort of uh came to

1790
01:15:02,990 --> 01:15:00,719
the same conclusions that we're talking

1791
01:15:04,850 --> 01:15:03,000
about here that these are self-organized

1792
01:15:07,010 --> 01:15:04,860
types of plasmas you could have them in

1793
01:15:08,689 --> 01:15:07,020
galaxies at the largest scale you could

1794
01:15:10,970 --> 01:15:08,699
have them in test tubes even the New

1795
01:15:12,050 --> 01:15:10,980
York Times wrote an article about his

1796
01:15:13,610 --> 01:15:12,060
discoveries

1797
01:15:16,370 --> 01:15:13,620
and this is going back all the way to

1798
01:15:18,110 --> 01:15:16,380
the 1950s but I didn't hear about this

1799
01:15:19,669 --> 01:15:18,120
until a few years ago I mean these are

1800
01:15:22,070 --> 01:15:19,679
people that really could have made of

1801
01:15:25,010 --> 01:15:22,080
deep scientific contribution

1802
01:15:28,189 --> 01:15:25,020
if their research hadn't been funded by

1803
01:15:29,630 --> 01:15:28,199
classified agencies this is the issue

1804
01:15:32,149 --> 01:15:29,640
we're dealing with here at least in the

1805
01:15:34,610 --> 01:15:32,159
United States so much of the really good

1806
01:15:37,010 --> 01:15:34,620
science was relegated to special access

1807
01:15:38,930 --> 01:15:37,020
programs and I know you've heard this

1808
01:15:40,250 --> 01:15:38,940
anyone in the UFO field we've heard this

1809
01:15:41,930 --> 01:15:40,260
over and over again but this is what

1810
01:15:44,770 --> 01:15:41,940
happened is the people that were

1811
01:15:48,470 --> 01:15:44,780
pursuing the Tesla type Research into

1812
01:15:51,530 --> 01:15:48,480
plasmoids self-organized matter with all

1813
01:15:54,110 --> 01:15:51,540
of its weird space-time bending effects

1814
01:15:57,770 --> 01:15:54,120
that goes into the Cryptid world as well

1815
01:16:00,169 --> 01:15:57,780
all of that was part of research coming

1816
01:16:02,209 --> 01:16:00,179
from the Air Force for the most part in

1817
01:16:05,390 --> 01:16:02,219
Department of energy

1818
01:16:07,729 --> 01:16:05,400
and they wanted it to be something that

1819
01:16:09,709 --> 01:16:07,739
they kept control of so it was always

1820
01:16:12,890 --> 01:16:09,719
you read these articles even Winston

1821
01:16:14,209 --> 01:16:12,900
Bostic says funded by U.S Air Force and

1822
01:16:15,770 --> 01:16:14,219
then you look at their most recent

1823
01:16:17,689 --> 01:16:15,780
research into the same area it's all

1824
01:16:20,649 --> 01:16:17,699
redacted you have to come to the

1825
01:16:23,330 --> 01:16:20,659
conclusion that this Nikola Tesla type

1826
01:16:25,790 --> 01:16:23,340
self-organized matter based on vibration

1827
01:16:28,310 --> 01:16:25,800
frequency and sound that can generate

1828
01:16:30,350 --> 01:16:28,320
really interesting gravitational and

1829
01:16:32,570 --> 01:16:30,360
space-time effects which is what the

1830
01:16:35,330 --> 01:16:32,580
witnesses report they say they're seen

1831
01:16:37,010 --> 01:16:35,340
somehow all of that got relegated to

1832
01:16:38,810 --> 01:16:37,020
classified research and it didn't make

1833
01:16:40,250 --> 01:16:38,820
it into the type of education that you

1834
01:16:42,050 --> 01:16:40,260
and I know about but there's so many

1835
01:16:43,790 --> 01:16:42,060
people we consider all night and talk

1836
01:16:46,250 --> 01:16:43,800
about these researchers whether Japan

1837
01:16:48,830 --> 01:16:46,260
Russian or American researchers that all

1838
01:16:52,010 --> 01:16:48,840
they call these objects different names

1839
01:16:54,590 --> 01:16:52,020
some of the people called it vortons and

1840
01:16:56,750 --> 01:16:54,600
Matsumoto in Japan called them iconic

1841
01:16:58,790 --> 01:16:56,760
clusters but they all came to the same

1842
01:17:00,229 --> 01:16:58,800
conclusion that some of dark matter we

1843
01:17:02,330 --> 01:17:00,239
don't know what it all is but some of

1844
01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:02,340
the neutrinos these dark neutrinos by

1845
01:17:07,030 --> 01:17:04,880
the way Boyd Bushman you remember him

1846
01:17:09,649 --> 01:17:07,040
he talked about

1847
01:17:11,750 --> 01:17:09,659
neutrino Universe this alternate the

1848
01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:11,760
universe of neutrinos and again that was

1849
01:17:15,950 --> 01:17:14,640
part of LA Martin's research would be if

1850
01:17:17,870 --> 01:17:15,960
it's good enough for the defense

1851
01:17:19,689 --> 01:17:17,880
contractors I would say we're not

1852
01:17:22,370 --> 01:17:19,699
talking about fringe science anymore

1853
01:17:24,830 --> 01:17:22,380
that's a convenient label to try to

1854
01:17:27,169 --> 01:17:24,840
discredit it while at the same time

1855
01:17:29,330 --> 01:17:27,179
these the powers that be are developing

1856
01:17:31,669 --> 01:17:29,340
into these classified patents and so

1857
01:17:32,990 --> 01:17:31,679
forth so this is a huge area of science

1858
01:17:37,070 --> 01:17:33,000
that I think we're coming to understand

1859
01:17:38,990 --> 01:17:37,080
again and it just shows us that we

1860
01:17:40,250 --> 01:17:39,000
actually do understand it I'm just

1861
01:17:43,070 --> 01:17:40,260
challenging you a little bit on that

1862
01:17:45,290 --> 01:17:43,080
statement but not the public science

1863
01:17:47,570 --> 01:17:45,300
that is all right right I'm just down

1864
01:17:49,550 --> 01:17:47,580
the hill from Condon where the Condon

1865
01:17:52,910 --> 01:17:49,560
report I'm down the hill from CU where

1866
01:17:55,729 --> 01:17:52,920
the Condon report was assembled and he

1867
01:17:57,709 --> 01:17:55,739
said that before they started he was

1868
01:17:58,970 --> 01:17:57,719
just going to whitewashed he told people

1869
01:18:00,470 --> 01:17:58,980
working with him we're just going to

1870
01:18:04,610 --> 01:18:00,480
discredit it but we want to make it

1871
01:18:08,810 --> 01:18:04,620
appear like a valid scientific study

1872
01:18:10,610 --> 01:18:08,820
and yet Condon himself had lost his

1873
01:18:13,490 --> 01:18:10,620
security clearance

1874
01:18:16,370 --> 01:18:13,500
because of his interest in Quantum

1875
01:18:19,010 --> 01:18:16,380
tunneling which in the 50s was

1876
01:18:20,990 --> 01:18:19,020
associated with subversive science yes I

1877
01:18:23,209 --> 01:18:21,000
mean I think we could science was so

1878
01:18:25,490 --> 01:18:23,219
politicized since World War II and this

1879
01:18:28,070 --> 01:18:25,500
fear of Communism that anyone associated

1880
01:18:31,970 --> 01:18:28,080
with quantum mechanics and other types

1881
01:18:34,130 --> 01:18:31,980
of new physics had to really watch that

1882
01:18:36,709 --> 01:18:34,140
they weren't blacklisted even Condon who

1883
01:18:39,530 --> 01:18:36,719
we know from the Condon report

1884
01:18:41,510 --> 01:18:39,540
probably did this to get his security

1885
01:18:42,790 --> 01:18:41,520
clearance back yeah he was bought and

1886
01:18:46,189 --> 01:18:42,800
paid for it

1887
01:18:48,050 --> 01:18:46,199
yeah no question about it

1888
01:18:50,689 --> 01:18:48,060
um by the way Boulder in the University

1889
01:18:54,050 --> 01:18:50,699
there beautiful man

1890
01:18:54,610 --> 01:18:54,060
beautiful I I spend a lot of time there

1891
01:18:58,010 --> 01:18:54,620
um

1892
01:19:00,649 --> 01:18:58,020
great place for dogs he is he is he

1893
01:19:04,550 --> 01:19:00,659
keeps looking up at you I'm watching him

1894
01:19:07,310 --> 01:19:04,560
you you can't he he looks up at you he

1895
01:19:09,229 --> 01:19:07,320
just plops right back down he's not he's

1896
01:19:11,270 --> 01:19:09,239
not doing good so far he could be

1897
01:19:12,950 --> 01:19:11,280
causing quite a racket but so far I

1898
01:19:17,090 --> 01:19:12,960
think he must enjoy this conversation if

1899
01:19:19,070 --> 01:19:17,100
he's causing him Astro Astro nah nah

1900
01:19:21,410 --> 01:19:19,080
he's out he's out

1901
01:19:25,910 --> 01:19:21,420
um okay but here's another interesting

1902
01:19:27,890 --> 01:19:25,920
aspect uh to all of this one is ASAP so

1903
01:19:29,570 --> 01:19:27,900
I'm going to swing back to that because

1904
01:19:33,229 --> 01:19:29,580
that's exactly what we're talking about

1905
01:19:36,610 --> 01:19:33,239
here but there has been lots of

1906
01:19:40,430 --> 01:19:36,620
conversation about

1907
01:19:44,270 --> 01:19:40,440
uh balls that look like they had

1908
01:19:46,729 --> 01:19:44,280
lightning in them underneath craft that

1909
01:19:49,010 --> 01:19:46,739
appeared to you know have a

1910
01:19:53,030 --> 01:19:49,020
gravitational you know no no type of

1911
01:19:54,830 --> 01:19:53,040
propulsion but is obviously flying and

1912
01:19:58,010 --> 01:19:54,840
if that's what we're talking about here

1913
01:20:00,590 --> 01:19:58,020
certainly a new form of matter is there

1914
01:20:03,470 --> 01:20:00,600
a gravitational effect with this as two

1915
01:20:05,689 --> 01:20:03,480
as well that would be something of

1916
01:20:09,050 --> 01:20:05,699
interest to Lockheed Skunk Works and

1917
01:20:11,510 --> 01:20:09,060
others no absolutely exactly right

1918
01:20:13,729 --> 01:20:11,520
that is what all of these patents talk

1919
01:20:17,570 --> 01:20:13,739
about even the most recent Lockheed

1920
01:20:20,590 --> 01:20:17,580
Martin patent from 2021 awarded in 2021.

1921
01:20:24,830 --> 01:20:20,600
uh Boyd Bushman was talking about this

1922
01:20:27,709 --> 01:20:24,840
even John Wheeler John Archibald wheeler

1923
01:20:30,290 --> 01:20:27,719
Mainstay of American physics

1924
01:20:31,729 --> 01:20:30,300
thesis supervisor to Hugh Everett who

1925
01:20:34,310 --> 01:20:31,739
comes up with the many worlds

1926
01:20:37,130 --> 01:20:34,320
interpretation that is still that is

1927
01:20:40,490 --> 01:20:37,140
still very popular and suggests the idea

1928
01:20:42,709 --> 01:20:40,500
of multiverses he created this model of

1929
01:20:45,350 --> 01:20:42,719
a particle that he called the Geon which

1930
01:20:48,709 --> 01:20:45,360
was these alternating electric and

1931
01:20:50,689 --> 01:20:48,719
magnetic charges in a toroidal shape

1932
01:20:51,770 --> 01:20:50,699
tour rides are very important in this by

1933
01:20:53,890 --> 01:20:51,780
the way

1934
01:20:57,110 --> 01:20:53,900
and he said that would produce a

1935
01:20:59,990 --> 01:20:57,120
gravitational effect in the middle This

1936
01:21:01,970 --> 01:21:00,000
Is 50 years before Boyd Bushman proposes

1937
01:21:04,010 --> 01:21:01,980
the same idea John Archibald wheeler

1938
01:21:06,649 --> 01:21:04,020
people have been coming up with this

1939
01:21:09,830 --> 01:21:06,659
over and over again and it's my theory

1940
01:21:12,530 --> 01:21:09,840
that because it had the implications of

1941
01:21:15,709 --> 01:21:12,540
creating anti-gravity

1942
01:21:18,410 --> 01:21:15,719
that it kept getting filtered into it's

1943
01:21:19,970 --> 01:21:18,420
kind of segregated into the classified

1944
01:21:22,970 --> 01:21:19,980
black world

1945
01:21:24,649 --> 01:21:22,980
and they kept this out of science

1946
01:21:27,649 --> 01:21:24,659
funding from the National Science

1947
01:21:29,750 --> 01:21:27,659
Foundation University education we've

1948
01:21:33,649 --> 01:21:29,760
all been dumbed down by this and it's a

1949
01:21:36,530 --> 01:21:33,659
big drawback of almost the success of

1950
01:21:39,649 --> 01:21:36,540
the United States since the 50s is that

1951
01:21:42,169 --> 01:21:39,659
the bureaucracies that manage the

1952
01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:42,179
National Security State and we're told

1953
01:21:47,450 --> 01:21:44,159
they've issued these National Security

1954
01:21:49,729 --> 01:21:47,460
orders over 5 000 times since then to

1955
01:21:51,110 --> 01:21:49,739
take to take away people's patents and

1956
01:21:52,790 --> 01:21:51,120
tell them you can't study this and you

1957
01:21:54,830 --> 01:21:52,800
can't tell tell anyone you we even

1958
01:21:57,890 --> 01:21:54,840
visited you to tell tell you not to talk

1959
01:22:01,310 --> 01:21:57,900
about this that sort of process to me

1960
01:22:03,470 --> 01:22:01,320
has siphoned off all of this technology

1961
01:22:06,169 --> 01:22:03,480
at least the thinking about it into

1962
01:22:08,270 --> 01:22:06,179
black budget programs but when you read

1963
01:22:10,250 --> 01:22:08,280
about it from Winston Bostick and John

1964
01:22:12,290 --> 01:22:10,260
Archibald wheeler who also had very

1965
01:22:15,950 --> 01:22:12,300
close ties to the defense establishment

1966
01:22:18,770 --> 01:22:15,960
it's pretty clear that this whole line

1967
01:22:20,689 --> 01:22:18,780
of development of coherent matter has

1968
01:22:23,570 --> 01:22:20,699
been with us the whole time the most of

1969
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:23,580
our information comes from Soviet and

1970
01:22:29,330 --> 01:22:26,400
Russian scientists Jimmy who came to the

1971
01:22:32,270 --> 01:22:29,340
same conclusion uh there's so many of

1972
01:22:34,669 --> 01:22:32,280
them uh you know

1973
01:22:35,450 --> 01:22:34,679
just one of them Alexander parkemov now

1974
01:22:38,229 --> 01:22:35,460
he

1975
01:22:40,930 --> 01:22:38,239
worked in this classified

1976
01:22:43,550 --> 01:22:40,940
I have that book

1977
01:22:46,130 --> 01:22:43,560
top-notch research he also worked in

1978
01:22:48,890 --> 01:22:46,140
their remote viewing their classified

1979
01:22:50,750 --> 01:22:48,900
remote View and what is he saying here

1980
01:22:52,729 --> 01:22:50,760
if you create these sort of structures

1981
01:22:54,410 --> 01:22:52,739
coherent matter we're talking about you

1982
01:22:56,330 --> 01:22:54,420
get this interaction with the Relic

1983
01:22:58,010 --> 01:22:56,340
neutrinos a component of Dark Matter

1984
01:22:59,390 --> 01:22:58,020
this whole introduction here is about

1985
01:23:01,550 --> 01:22:59,400
dark matter and how it creates

1986
01:23:04,189 --> 01:23:01,560
anti-gravitational effect he talks about

1987
01:23:07,250 --> 01:23:04,199
small black holes coming into the

1988
01:23:09,470 --> 01:23:07,260
atmosphere UFOs so many of these

1989
01:23:11,330 --> 01:23:09,480
researchers even even conventional ball

1990
01:23:13,010 --> 01:23:11,340
lightning researchers talk about UFOs

1991
01:23:14,450 --> 01:23:13,020
and how you have this overlap between

1992
01:23:16,850 --> 01:23:14,460
them that they can't make sense of

1993
01:23:18,530 --> 01:23:16,860
either but it all suggests another type

1994
01:23:20,870 --> 01:23:18,540
of matter now let me tell you one more

1995
01:23:22,490 --> 01:23:20,880
point of reference here which confirms

1996
01:23:26,570 --> 01:23:22,500
what we're all talking about

1997
01:23:29,570 --> 01:23:26,580
Dr Hal putoff's presentation to irva SSC

1998
01:23:32,630 --> 01:23:29,580
meeting joint meaning of Irvine SSE

1999
01:23:36,169 --> 01:23:32,640
in Las Vegas in 2018

2000
01:23:38,270 --> 01:23:36,179
he tells us that the US government has

2001
01:23:40,310 --> 01:23:38,280
had classified UFO research since

2002
01:23:41,870 --> 01:23:40,320
Project Blue Book that he's been

2003
01:23:43,669 --> 01:23:41,880
involved in it and he can't say

2004
01:23:45,110 --> 01:23:43,679
everything about it but he tells us that

2005
01:23:46,370 --> 01:23:45,120
some of the materials that they've

2006
01:23:50,570 --> 01:23:46,380
recovered

2007
01:23:52,970 --> 01:23:50,580
from UFO crashes the so-called bismuth

2008
01:23:54,590 --> 01:23:52,980
magnesium material this is the only one

2009
01:23:56,390 --> 01:23:54,600
he told us about because I asked him

2010
01:23:58,250 --> 01:23:56,400
were there other materials and he said I

2011
01:23:59,810 --> 01:23:58,260
can't talk about it that was his little

2012
01:24:01,430 --> 01:23:59,820
response to me after so what other

2013
01:24:03,530 --> 01:24:01,440
besides bismack needs me looked up for

2014
01:24:05,149 --> 01:24:03,540
things that I can't talk about these

2015
01:24:07,970 --> 01:24:05,159
materials do you know what he said they

2016
01:24:11,390 --> 01:24:07,980
did they literally bent space and time

2017
01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:11,400
by modifying permittivity he showed us

2018
01:24:17,450 --> 01:24:14,400
how they could act like wave guides to

2019
01:24:19,310 --> 01:24:17,460
modify the permittivity of free space

2020
01:24:20,810 --> 01:24:19,320
which he said is normally by physicists

2021
01:24:22,970 --> 01:24:20,820
at 2-1 like we've been talking about

2022
01:24:24,169 --> 01:24:22,980
said everything to an even metric he

2023
01:24:26,870 --> 01:24:24,179
said you could have variable

2024
01:24:29,229 --> 01:24:26,880
permittivity which would bend space time

2025
01:24:32,030 --> 01:24:29,239
and what is the speed of light based on

2026
01:24:33,950 --> 01:24:32,040
permeability and permittivity it's a

2027
01:24:35,390 --> 01:24:33,960
formula and he showed us the formula

2028
01:24:37,810 --> 01:24:35,400
said well you start modifying

2029
01:24:40,669 --> 01:24:37,820
permittivity this would explain why UFOs

2030
01:24:43,669 --> 01:24:40,679
are often different colors shifted to

2031
01:24:45,290 --> 01:24:43,679
Blue yeah and seem to look different

2032
01:24:47,090 --> 01:24:45,300
because they're in a different frame of

2033
01:24:49,310 --> 01:24:47,100
reference if you keep pushing that they

2034
01:24:52,130 --> 01:24:49,320
eventually go invisible but in between

2035
01:24:53,590 --> 01:24:52,140
they appear blue shifted and he's the

2036
01:24:56,750 --> 01:24:53,600
one who talked about

2037
01:24:58,490 --> 01:24:56,760
variable permittivity and then it turns

2038
01:25:00,229 --> 01:24:58,500
out his colleague Ken shoulders they

2039
01:25:01,910 --> 01:25:00,239
worked together for a number of years in

2040
01:25:04,729 --> 01:25:01,920
Austin at an establishment they called

2041
01:25:07,669 --> 01:25:04,739
Jupiter Technologies he's talking about

2042
01:25:09,530 --> 01:25:07,679
variable permittivity in ball lightning

2043
01:25:11,209 --> 01:25:09,540
and orbs and so forth

2044
01:25:12,890 --> 01:25:11,219
you realize they're all talking about

2045
01:25:14,990 --> 01:25:12,900
the same thing they're talking and what

2046
01:25:16,910 --> 01:25:15,000
putoff called it which people are I'm

2047
01:25:21,050 --> 01:25:16,920
sure our listeners viewers are familiar

2048
01:25:24,770 --> 01:25:21,060
with space-time metric engineering yep

2049
01:25:27,370 --> 01:25:24,780
the Soviets called it vacuum engineering

2050
01:25:30,229 --> 01:25:27,380
it's the same thing

2051
01:25:33,110 --> 01:25:30,239
modifying space and time the quantum

2052
01:25:34,850 --> 01:25:33,120
field directly with materials that are

2053
01:25:37,130 --> 01:25:34,860
no longer set to the constants that

2054
01:25:39,470 --> 01:25:37,140
we're all used to yeah

2055
01:25:43,490 --> 01:25:39,480
um uh I'm gonna Circle back to Wheeler

2056
01:25:45,950 --> 01:25:43,500
and Everett uh by the way too my heroes

2057
01:25:48,830 --> 01:25:45,960
um but I live a mile away from Skunk

2058
01:25:51,410 --> 01:25:48,840
Works right you see my finger I'm

2059
01:25:53,990 --> 01:25:51,420
pointing that way the end of the runway

2060
01:25:56,149 --> 01:25:54,000
points at the back of my house right

2061
01:25:58,310 --> 01:25:56,159
there it's right there Palmdale yeah

2062
01:26:00,830 --> 01:25:58,320
yeah yeah I'm in Palmdale everybody

2063
01:26:03,410 --> 01:26:00,840
knows that and every time I have

2064
01:26:05,570 --> 01:26:03,420
visitors over at the house right they're

2065
01:26:08,030 --> 01:26:05,580
from out of town they don't want to see

2066
01:26:09,350 --> 01:26:08,040
the bunker they don't want to see my

2067
01:26:12,410 --> 01:26:09,360
guitars

2068
01:26:13,970 --> 01:26:12,420
Jimmy man take us to Skunk Works they

2069
01:26:15,770 --> 01:26:13,980
want to go to discover and it's just a

2070
01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:15,780
mile down the road and I've seen some

2071
01:26:24,410 --> 01:26:21,360
crazy stuff and I'm I'm convinced uh

2072
01:26:26,870 --> 01:26:24,420
from without going into details

2073
01:26:29,390 --> 01:26:26,880
um but there's some there's some

2074
01:26:30,890 --> 01:26:29,400
anti-gravity research going on I I I

2075
01:26:32,149 --> 01:26:30,900
don't want to say any more than that I

2076
01:26:34,550 --> 01:26:32,159
live here I don't want to get in trouble

2077
01:26:37,729 --> 01:26:34,560
with my neighbors who all work you know

2078
01:26:42,470 --> 01:26:37,739
down the street uh but uh I'm convinced

2079
01:26:44,830 --> 01:26:42,480
of that and now back to two of my heroes

2080
01:26:48,649 --> 01:26:44,840
I've got a lot of hero physicists I do

2081
01:26:51,890 --> 01:26:48,659
man the list is long

2082
01:26:55,010 --> 01:26:51,900
um but Everett and Wheeler

2083
01:26:57,410 --> 01:26:55,020
thought outside of the box

2084
01:27:00,890 --> 01:26:57,420
and they're students and those

2085
01:27:03,410 --> 01:27:00,900
physicists today that go back and review

2086
01:27:05,330 --> 01:27:03,420
wheelers and and Everett's work and

2087
01:27:09,169 --> 01:27:05,340
statements

2088
01:27:11,149 --> 01:27:09,179
um allowed free thinking in in the 50s

2089
01:27:15,110 --> 01:27:11,159
and 60s like we never had before in

2090
01:27:18,770 --> 01:27:15,120
physics but it stopped you know it seems

2091
01:27:21,050 --> 01:27:18,780
like the physics world now in this era

2092
01:27:23,689 --> 01:27:21,060
of funding right yeah you know that

2093
01:27:28,129 --> 01:27:23,699
we're talking about it it's it's gotten

2094
01:27:32,209 --> 01:27:28,139
so narrow that they don't want to rock

2095
01:27:35,450 --> 01:27:32,219
the boat wheeler was a boat Rocker Man I

2096
01:27:37,850 --> 01:27:35,460
mean that if Everett are you kidding me

2097
01:27:39,050 --> 01:27:37,860
right and they don't think that way

2098
01:27:41,570 --> 01:27:39,060
anymore

2099
01:27:45,050 --> 01:27:41,580
um what do you think happened why did it

2100
01:27:48,290 --> 01:27:45,060
get closed down so quickly

2101
01:27:50,030 --> 01:27:48,300
I think everyone got bought off yeah I

2102
01:27:51,950 --> 01:27:50,040
mean I hate to say it but having gone

2103
01:27:54,290 --> 01:27:51,960
through academics having worked at a

2104
01:27:56,870 --> 01:27:54,300
university there are these intense

2105
01:27:59,810 --> 01:27:56,880
pressures to toe the line

2106
01:28:01,669 --> 01:27:59,820
and you get these lectures from I got

2107
01:28:03,050 --> 01:28:01,679
them from my professors you know you do

2108
01:28:05,030 --> 01:28:03,060
want to be successful in this field

2109
01:28:07,610 --> 01:28:05,040
don't you you do want to get promoted

2110
01:28:09,649 --> 01:28:07,620
you want tenure this goes into people's

2111
01:28:10,729 --> 01:28:09,659
minds no matter what organization you

2112
01:28:13,129 --> 01:28:10,739
work in

2113
01:28:15,229 --> 01:28:13,139
and we're threatened with a type of

2114
01:28:17,090 --> 01:28:15,239
economic blackmail in this country that

2115
01:28:19,550 --> 01:28:17,100
if you don't to the line you're going to

2116
01:28:20,990 --> 01:28:19,560
be booted out the door and be on your

2117
01:28:24,590 --> 01:28:21,000
own you could fall through the economic

2118
01:28:26,330 --> 01:28:24,600
cracks right yeah and it what we

2119
01:28:28,490 --> 01:28:26,340
suffered from is something that Europe

2120
01:28:30,890 --> 01:28:28,500
was actually better at than we were in

2121
01:28:32,510 --> 01:28:30,900
the U.S which was engaging the theory

2122
01:28:35,030 --> 01:28:32,520
behind this a little more something that

2123
01:28:36,950 --> 01:28:35,040
Einstein was highly concerned with is

2124
01:28:39,470 --> 01:28:36,960
that physics shouldn't be just about

2125
01:28:41,689 --> 01:28:39,480
predicting what's going to happen in

2126
01:28:43,550 --> 01:28:41,699
physics physics experiments it should

2127
01:28:46,250 --> 01:28:43,560
give us an explanation for how the

2128
01:28:48,050 --> 01:28:46,260
universe works in a way that seems

2129
01:28:49,790 --> 01:28:48,060
intuitively

2130
01:28:53,149 --> 01:28:49,800
to make sense with the world we see

2131
01:28:54,830 --> 01:28:53,159
around us but quantum mechanics and

2132
01:28:56,870 --> 01:28:54,840
modern physics went in another Direction

2133
01:28:59,450 --> 01:28:56,880
which was basically shut up and

2134
01:29:02,810 --> 01:28:59,460
calculate which was you don't need to

2135
01:29:05,629 --> 01:29:02,820
know why what a superposition is of

2136
01:29:07,550 --> 01:29:05,639
particles or why matter can seem like a

2137
01:29:09,830 --> 01:29:07,560
particle or a wave all we need to know

2138
01:29:12,590 --> 01:29:09,840
is that your experiment works out the

2139
01:29:15,890 --> 01:29:12,600
way we expect it to work out so we can

2140
01:29:17,990 --> 01:29:15,900
develop atomic bombs or quantum

2141
01:29:19,729 --> 01:29:18,000
computers or whatever technology you're

2142
01:29:20,990 --> 01:29:19,739
working but we don't need to know why it

2143
01:29:22,189 --> 01:29:21,000
works and I think that's what we're

2144
01:29:24,050 --> 01:29:22,199
missing here and here's what the

2145
01:29:26,930 --> 01:29:24,060
universe keeps telling us it keeps

2146
01:29:30,950 --> 01:29:26,940
throwing UFOs at us Bigfoot Cryptid

2147
01:29:33,010 --> 01:29:30,960
encounters ghosts haunted sites RV

2148
01:29:36,169 --> 01:29:33,020
premonitions

2149
01:29:37,790 --> 01:29:36,179
telepathic experiences things that don't

2150
01:29:40,430 --> 01:29:37,800
fit within that model because it's

2151
01:29:42,530 --> 01:29:40,440
saying to us look you're in a bigger

2152
01:29:44,570 --> 01:29:42,540
reality and those models in and of

2153
01:29:46,729 --> 01:29:44,580
themselves are not sufficient to explain

2154
01:29:49,870 --> 01:29:46,739
what we're seeing around us you need to

2155
01:29:53,629 --> 01:29:49,880
kind of apply it it's the contradiction

2156
01:29:55,970 --> 01:29:53,639
it's the Paradox of success is that once

2157
01:29:58,189 --> 01:29:55,980
you're riding the gravy train

2158
01:30:01,310 --> 01:29:58,199
for a lot of people that are on those

2159
01:30:03,590 --> 01:30:01,320
career paths the farther you go on to

2160
01:30:06,110 --> 01:30:03,600
that path with that organization or

2161
01:30:08,450 --> 01:30:06,120
whatever you do within your profession

2162
01:30:10,610 --> 01:30:08,460
you're less and less likely to want to

2163
01:30:13,790 --> 01:30:10,620
take risks yeah you don't take chances

2164
01:30:15,950 --> 01:30:13,800
you you just don't do it yeah and it was

2165
01:30:18,950 --> 01:30:15,960
Getty Lee of Rush remember what he said

2166
01:30:20,629 --> 01:30:18,960
he said he always maintained this moral

2167
01:30:23,330 --> 01:30:20,639
position I'd never want to do anything

2168
01:30:25,430 --> 01:30:23,340
that went against my morals as an 18

2169
01:30:27,530 --> 01:30:25,440
year old the person I was is an 18 year

2170
01:30:29,510 --> 01:30:27,540
old I never wanted to do anything that

2171
01:30:32,750 --> 01:30:29,520
would offend the person I had been when

2172
01:30:34,970 --> 01:30:32,760
I was 18. and I think a lot of us

2173
01:30:37,669 --> 01:30:34,980
as we go through these different sort of

2174
01:30:39,709 --> 01:30:37,679
Institutions you got come under these

2175
01:30:43,430 --> 01:30:39,719
pressures to play the game to fit the

2176
01:30:45,950 --> 01:30:43,440
mold and that has a negative effect on

2177
01:30:47,570 --> 01:30:45,960
Creative new thinking

2178
01:30:50,629 --> 01:30:47,580
it's exactly what you said a few minutes

2179
01:30:53,030 --> 01:30:50,639
ago the funding got so powerful after

2180
01:30:55,850 --> 01:30:53,040
World War II from all these government

2181
01:30:57,709 --> 01:30:55,860
organizations coming together to to

2182
01:30:59,689 --> 01:30:57,719
fight World War II which was we all

2183
01:31:01,610 --> 01:30:59,699
agree was necessary at the time it had

2184
01:31:03,709 --> 01:31:01,620
to happen but they never came apart at

2185
01:31:06,310 --> 01:31:03,719
the end that National Security State

2186
01:31:08,810 --> 01:31:06,320
never separated and you got all this

2187
01:31:11,090 --> 01:31:08,820
compartmentalization what the Insiders

2188
01:31:13,129 --> 01:31:11,100
you know at to the Stars Academy called

2189
01:31:14,390 --> 01:31:13,139
stove piping those guys all talked about

2190
01:31:17,810 --> 01:31:14,400
you know those folks that worked with

2191
01:31:19,610 --> 01:31:17,820
Tom DeLonge in his ttsa group it's a

2192
01:31:22,370 --> 01:31:19,620
stove piping that doesn't allow people

2193
01:31:24,830 --> 01:31:22,380
to talk to other people in the area

2194
01:31:27,470 --> 01:31:24,840
because they're under these kind of ndas

2195
01:31:29,270 --> 01:31:27,480
security agreements I can't tell you how

2196
01:31:31,729 --> 01:31:29,280
many people I've come across when I

2197
01:31:33,890 --> 01:31:31,739
attempt to get them to elaborate on the

2198
01:31:36,110 --> 01:31:33,900
mysterious materials they've been asked

2199
01:31:38,629 --> 01:31:36,120
to reverse engineer and you know what

2200
01:31:41,090 --> 01:31:38,639
their response often is even in Private

2201
01:31:42,709 --> 01:31:41,100
Industry I signed an NDA with the

2202
01:31:44,270 --> 01:31:42,719
federal government I can't talk anymore

2203
01:31:45,470 --> 01:31:44,280
about this we never had this

2204
01:31:47,870 --> 01:31:45,480
conversation and they don't know where

2205
01:31:50,330 --> 01:31:47,880
the material came from and they don't

2206
01:31:52,970 --> 01:31:50,340
know you know who the uh you know what

2207
01:31:54,970 --> 01:31:52,980
to do to do that in the in the next Lab

2208
01:31:57,649 --> 01:31:54,980
is working on right

2209
01:32:00,470 --> 01:31:57,659
and or you can't talk to the guy in the

2210
01:32:03,590 --> 01:32:00,480
next right next time no you can't do it

2211
01:32:04,850 --> 01:32:03,600
and it's still in effect and back to

2212
01:32:08,810 --> 01:32:04,860
your point

2213
01:32:11,750 --> 01:32:08,820
if we go back to Evert and and Wheeler

2214
01:32:14,390 --> 01:32:11,760
and and Feynman you know what a great

2215
01:32:19,450 --> 01:32:14,400
era and boar right and those guys would

2216
01:32:21,550 --> 01:32:19,460
get together and argue and right and and

2217
01:32:25,070 --> 01:32:21,560
dude

2218
01:32:27,709 --> 01:32:25,080
but they talked it out and they explored

2219
01:32:30,729 --> 01:32:27,719
ideas and what did we get out of that

2220
01:32:33,410 --> 01:32:30,739
well we got things like crazy stuff

2221
01:32:37,790 --> 01:32:33,420
multi-world Multiverse parallel worlds

2222
01:32:41,090 --> 01:32:37,800
entanglement right and these Concepts uh

2223
01:32:44,330 --> 01:32:41,100
that today are exactly what our

2224
01:32:47,950 --> 01:32:44,340
paranormal Supernatural world has been

2225
01:32:52,010 --> 01:32:47,960
discussing remote viewing right exactly

2226
01:32:53,350 --> 01:32:52,020
all in Consciousness right it's it it it

2227
01:32:57,590 --> 01:32:53,360
it it

2228
01:32:59,689 --> 01:32:57,600
but yes yes yes yes this is why parkimov

2229
01:33:02,570 --> 01:32:59,699
talks about cold fusion what's now

2230
01:33:04,850 --> 01:33:02,580
called low energy nuclear reaction with

2231
01:33:06,950 --> 01:33:04,860
the same book about remote viewing

2232
01:33:08,169 --> 01:33:06,960
because it's all the same thing just

2233
01:33:10,669 --> 01:33:08,179
like you're saying

2234
01:33:12,970 --> 01:33:10,679
would you equate

2235
01:33:16,570 --> 01:33:12,980
see this is the thing

2236
01:33:21,709 --> 01:33:16,580
physicists want the world

2237
01:33:24,890 --> 01:33:21,719
to uh understand entanglement the

2238
01:33:28,390 --> 01:33:24,900
Multiverse right String Theory they they

2239
01:33:32,750 --> 01:33:28,400
want all of these crazy science fiction

2240
01:33:35,330 --> 01:33:32,760
right Concepts that works elegantly in

2241
01:33:38,870 --> 01:33:35,340
the math right it plays out and the math

2242
01:33:41,390 --> 01:33:38,880
Works therefore they they describe those

2243
01:33:43,850 --> 01:33:41,400
algorithms to us and paint the picture

2244
01:33:46,250 --> 01:33:43,860
of what they're talking about but they

2245
01:33:48,709 --> 01:33:46,260
don't want to discuss Consciousness and

2246
01:33:50,030 --> 01:33:48,719
they don't want to discuss ghosts and

2247
01:33:55,970 --> 01:33:50,040
they don't want to discuss remote

2248
01:33:58,189 --> 01:33:55,980
viewing or telepathy or or UFOs or it's

2249
01:33:59,990 --> 01:33:58,199
it's bizarre but they're telling us the

2250
01:34:02,990 --> 01:34:00,000
exact same thing

2251
01:34:05,090 --> 01:34:03,000
right they are and uh and this is

2252
01:34:07,729 --> 01:34:05,100
exactly the argument that Hugh Everett

2253
01:34:09,110 --> 01:34:07,739
made back in the 1950s when he was

2254
01:34:11,810 --> 01:34:09,120
working with wheeler and other

2255
01:34:14,149 --> 01:34:11,820
physicists he argued that quantum

2256
01:34:16,189 --> 01:34:14,159
mechanics just doesn't apply only to

2257
01:34:17,870 --> 01:34:16,199
microscopic world isn't that what we

2258
01:34:20,149 --> 01:34:17,880
always hear about quantum mechanics they

2259
01:34:22,189 --> 01:34:20,159
almost Define it the definition of

2260
01:34:24,649 --> 01:34:22,199
quantum mechanics is how the subatomic

2261
01:34:26,629 --> 01:34:24,659
World works well whoever it said why

2262
01:34:28,330 --> 01:34:26,639
would why is there this artificial cut

2263
01:34:31,550 --> 01:34:28,340
off between the micro and the macro

2264
01:34:33,530 --> 01:34:31,560
quantum mechanics has to describe the

2265
01:34:35,209 --> 01:34:33,540
macro world too there's nothing that

2266
01:34:36,890 --> 01:34:35,219
just says well as soon as you get larger

2267
01:34:39,470 --> 01:34:36,900
than atoms quantum mechanics doesn't

2268
01:34:41,090 --> 01:34:39,480
apply there's nothing in the theory that

2269
01:34:44,149 --> 01:34:41,100
should explain why that's true there's

2270
01:34:46,250 --> 01:34:44,159
no reason for the Heisenberg cut as it's

2271
01:34:48,530 --> 01:34:46,260
called it's a magical area where it

2272
01:34:50,629 --> 01:34:48,540
stops working why whoever it's at a

2273
01:34:53,270 --> 01:34:50,639
Schrodinger wave function has to apply

2274
01:34:55,189 --> 01:34:53,280
to macroscopic objects now the way I

2275
01:34:56,450 --> 01:34:55,199
understand that that's exactly what

2276
01:34:58,790 --> 01:34:56,460
you're talking about with remote viewing

2277
01:35:02,149 --> 01:34:58,800
and telepathy this kind of larger scale

2278
01:35:04,310 --> 01:35:02,159
entanglement and resonance which is

2279
01:35:05,990 --> 01:35:04,320
really what quantum mechanics is without

2280
01:35:07,490 --> 01:35:06,000
that type of resonance we wouldn't even

2281
01:35:09,229 --> 01:35:07,500
have this conversation right now because

2282
01:35:12,590 --> 01:35:09,239
all the electronics we're using right

2283
01:35:13,970 --> 01:35:12,600
now is based on Quantum tunneling if the

2284
01:35:16,209 --> 01:35:13,980
mechanics didn't work this wouldn't be

2285
01:35:18,830 --> 01:35:16,219
happening but it's happening at the Mike

2286
01:35:20,810 --> 01:35:18,840
macroscopic scale too and it's what we

2287
01:35:23,709 --> 01:35:20,820
call paranormal phenomena

2288
01:35:28,629 --> 01:35:23,719
it it is it's

2289
01:35:31,550 --> 01:35:28,639
phenomenal to me to have uh a physicist

2290
01:35:35,030 --> 01:35:31,560
look you straight in the eye

2291
01:35:38,930 --> 01:35:35,040
and say well if You observe something

2292
01:35:41,990 --> 01:35:38,940
you can change its state you only gotta

2293
01:35:44,870 --> 01:35:42,000
look at it right you you want to tell me

2294
01:35:46,790 --> 01:35:44,880
that but you've got issues with

2295
01:35:49,790 --> 01:35:46,800
spirituality

2296
01:35:53,629 --> 01:35:49,800
right you've got issues consciousness

2297
01:35:54,490 --> 01:35:53,639
what are you really trying to say here

2298
01:35:56,990 --> 01:35:54,500
um

2299
01:35:59,810 --> 01:35:57,000
Schrodinger you know you get into these

2300
01:36:01,970 --> 01:35:59,820
Concepts that are so far out there but

2301
01:36:03,350 --> 01:36:01,980
they'll say well yeah but the math

2302
01:36:05,810 --> 01:36:03,360
checks out

2303
01:36:07,189 --> 01:36:05,820
but I I don't want to discuss

2304
01:36:09,590 --> 01:36:07,199
consciousness

2305
01:36:12,350 --> 01:36:09,600
I can't measure it

2306
01:36:14,990 --> 01:36:12,360
yeah they they want to cut it off at the

2307
01:36:17,689 --> 01:36:15,000
Quant the microscopic subatomic level

2308
01:36:18,649 --> 01:36:17,699
but they'll say it doesn't apply to our

2309
01:36:20,930 --> 01:36:18,659
scale

2310
01:36:22,070 --> 01:36:20,940
and yet we've all this evidence from all

2311
01:36:24,590 --> 01:36:22,080
the witnesses of these different

2312
01:36:27,169 --> 01:36:24,600
phenomena we've been talking about

2313
01:36:29,270 --> 01:36:27,179
who've experienced this whether it be

2314
01:36:31,370 --> 01:36:29,280
from remote viewing or crop circles

2315
01:36:32,990 --> 01:36:31,380
another topic that I've spent a lot of

2316
01:36:34,669 --> 01:36:33,000
time looking at and we find a way we

2317
01:36:36,890 --> 01:36:34,679
found the same phenomena around crop

2318
01:36:39,350 --> 01:36:36,900
circles people had telepathic

2319
01:36:40,850 --> 01:36:39,360
experiences premonitions of crop circles

2320
01:36:43,189 --> 01:36:40,860
that wouldn't appear for a couple days

2321
01:36:46,490 --> 01:36:43,199
but yet they drew them perfectly in a

2322
01:36:49,070 --> 01:36:46,500
notebook a few days before the orbs time

2323
01:36:51,350 --> 01:36:49,080
loss weird magnetic effects Compass is

2324
01:36:53,209 --> 01:36:51,360
spinning around similar sorts of

2325
01:36:54,890 --> 01:36:53,219
phenomena Jimmy even the ones we made

2326
01:36:56,270 --> 01:36:54,900
experimentally where we paid the farmer

2327
01:36:57,950 --> 01:36:56,280
we would get some of these strange

2328
01:36:59,770 --> 01:36:57,960
effects which you know again is sort of

2329
01:37:02,510 --> 01:36:59,780
a vortices

2330
01:37:04,430 --> 01:37:02,520
Vortex Dark Matter type of interaction

2331
01:37:05,750 --> 01:37:04,440
at least that's the way I look at it but

2332
01:37:07,310 --> 01:37:05,760
here's how I think this applies to

2333
01:37:09,350 --> 01:37:07,320
Cryptids since this is what we're

2334
01:37:11,990 --> 01:37:09,360
originally talking about yeah what were

2335
01:37:15,830 --> 01:37:12,000
we talking about oh Bigfoot the reason

2336
01:37:17,270 --> 01:37:15,840
why Bigfoot is so associated with all of

2337
01:37:20,689 --> 01:37:17,280
these topics we're talking about tonight

2338
01:37:23,410 --> 01:37:20,699
is in my view they're a type of

2339
01:37:25,910 --> 01:37:23,420
human or related to humans a type of

2340
01:37:27,890 --> 01:37:25,920
hominoid as the Russian researchers the

2341
01:37:30,590 --> 01:37:27,900
Russians call it hominology

2342
01:37:32,930 --> 01:37:30,600
that kept developing along these lines

2343
01:37:34,910 --> 01:37:32,940
without the classification and the stove

2344
01:37:36,709 --> 01:37:34,920
piping and the type of bureaucratization

2345
01:37:38,350 --> 01:37:36,719
which for some reason our particular

2346
01:37:41,030 --> 01:37:38,360
species went in that direction

2347
01:37:43,010 --> 01:37:41,040
technological Direction they kept in the

2348
01:37:44,629 --> 01:37:43,020
other direction of the way nature

2349
01:37:46,850 --> 01:37:44,639
already develops all these Quantum

2350
01:37:49,790 --> 01:37:46,860
principles and they just kept developing

2351
01:37:51,830 --> 01:37:49,800
it over thousands over millennia until

2352
01:37:53,629 --> 01:37:51,840
they were capable of doing everything we

2353
01:37:55,990 --> 01:37:53,639
see in that Lockheed Martin patent or

2354
01:38:00,669 --> 01:37:56,000
what Boyd Bushman is talking about

2355
01:38:03,169 --> 01:38:00,679
invisibility cloaking you know

2356
01:38:05,629 --> 01:38:03,179
non-local communication everything you

2357
01:38:08,030 --> 01:38:05,639
see in those patents is what Cryptids

2358
01:38:11,090 --> 01:38:08,040
are capable of doing morphine

2359
01:38:13,490 --> 01:38:11,100
transmutation a lot of them so it just

2360
01:38:16,790 --> 01:38:13,500
seems to me if we think we're figuring

2361
01:38:18,950 --> 01:38:16,800
it out now it's probably just like these

2362
01:38:20,570 --> 01:38:18,960
very interesting animals we were talking

2363
01:38:23,209 --> 01:38:20,580
about at the beginning of the show that

2364
01:38:25,790 --> 01:38:23,219
are naturally invisible

2365
01:38:28,610 --> 01:38:25,800
some other types of life that were has

2366
01:38:30,169 --> 01:38:28,620
evolved at us as as we are thousands of

2367
01:38:31,370 --> 01:38:30,179
years ago kept they just went in a

2368
01:38:33,669 --> 01:38:31,380
different direction and they're here

2369
01:38:36,229 --> 01:38:33,679
with us now at like another civilization

2370
01:38:37,910 --> 01:38:36,239
layered onto ours but they're extremely

2371
01:38:40,610 --> 01:38:37,920
good at being stealthy

2372
01:38:42,950 --> 01:38:40,620
and avoiding us if they want and and

2373
01:38:44,950 --> 01:38:42,960
changing into other frequencies which we

2374
01:38:48,169 --> 01:38:44,960
don't consciously know how to do

2375
01:38:50,450 --> 01:38:48,179
are you technically I'm not putting you

2376
01:38:51,950 --> 01:38:50,460
on the spot here but I want to hear your

2377
01:38:54,470 --> 01:38:51,960
answer

2378
01:38:55,910 --> 01:38:54,480
are we technically talking about skin

2379
01:39:00,070 --> 01:38:55,920
walker Ranch

2380
01:39:04,370 --> 01:39:00,080
you know and and and the entire concept

2381
01:39:05,770 --> 01:39:04,380
of of ASAP which uh to me had nothing to

2382
01:39:08,270 --> 01:39:05,780
do with UFOs

2383
01:39:11,390 --> 01:39:08,280
and had everything to do with everything

2384
01:39:14,390 --> 01:39:11,400
else uh Cryptids and the spiritual yeah

2385
01:39:16,610 --> 01:39:14,400
the vortexes right

2386
01:39:18,950 --> 01:39:16,620
yeah why people like Stephen Green

2387
01:39:21,050 --> 01:39:18,960
Street continue to make fun of this when

2388
01:39:23,209 --> 01:39:21,060
there's so many witnesses not only to

2389
01:39:24,649 --> 01:39:23,219
Skinwalker Ranch of you know I'm talking

2390
01:39:26,570 --> 01:39:24,659
about the New York Post the reporter who

2391
01:39:28,070 --> 01:39:26,580
did some very good UFO research a few

2392
01:39:30,590 --> 01:39:28,080
years ago but now has become very

2393
01:39:32,510 --> 01:39:30,600
critical of us happening this is what

2394
01:39:36,050 --> 01:39:32,520
ASAP was looking at people like James

2395
01:39:37,669 --> 01:39:36,060
lacaski and Tom Keller and George Knapp

2396
01:39:40,910 --> 01:39:37,679
realized there was a huge crossover

2397
01:39:42,649 --> 01:39:40,920
between the UFO phenomena and the

2398
01:39:45,470 --> 01:39:42,659
phenomena they saw at Skinwalker Ranch

2399
01:39:50,810 --> 01:39:45,480
which at the time was uh owned by Robert

2400
01:39:52,910 --> 01:39:50,820
Bigelow and uh they started OSAP as a

2401
01:39:55,250 --> 01:39:52,920
UFO program but then they realized

2402
01:39:59,030 --> 01:39:55,260
places where these UFOs show up like

2403
01:40:01,850 --> 01:39:59,040
Skinwalker Ranch also had Cryptid

2404
01:40:03,890 --> 01:40:01,860
activity and lots of orbs of course and

2405
01:40:05,870 --> 01:40:03,900
and and things that appear like ball

2406
01:40:07,970 --> 01:40:05,880
lightning that people experiencing Time

2407
01:40:09,590 --> 01:40:07,980
Slips and voices speaking in their heads

2408
01:40:12,229 --> 01:40:09,600
the same sort of thing but this is not

2409
01:40:14,209 --> 01:40:12,239
only happening at Skinwalker Ranch Ted

2410
01:40:16,729 --> 01:40:14,219
Phillips who was an associate of Jay

2411
01:40:19,810 --> 01:40:16,739
Allen heineck did a lot of Trace case

2412
01:40:22,430 --> 01:40:19,820
analyzes thousands of cases

2413
01:40:26,649 --> 01:40:22,440
documented the same phenomena at a place

2414
01:40:29,570 --> 01:40:26,659
called Marley Woods a ranch in Missouri

2415
01:40:32,810 --> 01:40:29,580
identical phenomena to Skinwalker some

2416
01:40:35,270 --> 01:40:32,820
people said even more so strange types

2417
01:40:38,930 --> 01:40:35,280
of animals that we just don't even have

2418
01:40:40,970 --> 01:40:38,940
names for call them Cryptids the orbs

2419
01:40:42,950 --> 01:40:40,980
Ted Phillips called them the Ambrose he

2420
01:40:44,810 --> 01:40:42,960
even said one time one of these orbs

2421
01:40:46,430 --> 01:40:44,820
came over came over a picnic bench there

2422
01:40:48,169 --> 01:40:46,440
that was changed to the ground it

2423
01:40:49,850 --> 01:40:48,179
started coming up in the air the

2424
01:40:51,770 --> 01:40:49,860
anti-gravity effects

2425
01:40:53,990 --> 01:40:51,780
so you get this at these portal areas

2426
01:40:56,830 --> 01:40:54,000
there are some near the Yakima

2427
01:41:01,370 --> 01:40:56,840
Washington area

2428
01:41:04,129 --> 01:41:01,380
Bradshaw Ranch in Sedona right so we

2429
01:41:09,189 --> 01:41:04,139
know about these portal areas and they

2430
01:41:11,810 --> 01:41:09,199
most likely in my view have some sort of

2431
01:41:15,410 --> 01:41:11,820
different mineral or crystalline

2432
01:41:17,090 --> 01:41:15,420
configuration in the ground that gives

2433
01:41:19,310 --> 01:41:17,100
rise to these phenomena it makes it

2434
01:41:20,450 --> 01:41:19,320
easier for coherent matter phenomena to

2435
01:41:23,030 --> 01:41:20,460
arise

2436
01:41:25,669 --> 01:41:23,040
and different types of carbonaceous and

2437
01:41:27,649 --> 01:41:25,679
silica substances that form the basis of

2438
01:41:29,149 --> 01:41:27,659
ball lightning are most likely we know

2439
01:41:30,890 --> 01:41:29,159
in Skinwalker Ranch there's a lot of

2440
01:41:32,270 --> 01:41:30,900
gilsonite which is a carbon-based

2441
01:41:34,189 --> 01:41:32,280
material and and there could be more

2442
01:41:36,590 --> 01:41:34,199
going on than that but it seems like you

2443
01:41:38,030 --> 01:41:36,600
get this in certain places but don't you

2444
01:41:39,530 --> 01:41:38,040
think there's a pretty big overlap

2445
01:41:42,709 --> 01:41:39,540
between all these different sort of

2446
01:41:45,109 --> 01:41:42,719
portal areas the Cryptids the UFOs the

2447
01:41:47,689 --> 01:41:45,119
orbs and then the experiences of the

2448
01:41:49,609 --> 01:41:47,699
people who are there which is a lot of

2449
01:41:51,649 --> 01:41:49,619
really strange phenomena the the

2450
01:41:54,050 --> 01:41:51,659
Skinwalker Ranch area is interesting

2451
01:41:56,410 --> 01:41:54,060
because even before the modern era the

2452
01:41:59,390 --> 01:41:56,420
American Indians who lived in the area

2453
01:42:02,750 --> 01:41:59,400
reported these types of Cryptids types

2454
01:42:06,770 --> 01:42:02,760
of strange phenomena in that whole uh

2455
01:42:08,930 --> 01:42:06,780
who went to a county Basin so it seems

2456
01:42:10,910 --> 01:42:08,940
that these are long lasting effects and

2457
01:42:13,550 --> 01:42:10,920
it would make sense that ASAP was

2458
01:42:15,290 --> 01:42:13,560
interested in this I mean just at a

2459
01:42:16,609 --> 01:42:15,300
minimal level for the same reason we've

2460
01:42:18,590 --> 01:42:16,619
been talking about all this sort of

2461
01:42:20,390 --> 01:42:18,600
Defense contract or interest in ball

2462
01:42:22,189 --> 01:42:20,400
lightning and so forth because there's

2463
01:42:23,270 --> 01:42:22,199
technological applications if you can

2464
01:42:28,090 --> 01:42:23,280
figure it out

2465
01:42:33,950 --> 01:42:31,850
in the short time that we have left

2466
01:42:36,050 --> 01:42:33,960
I've got to ask you the most complicated

2467
01:42:37,550 --> 01:42:36,060
question you know the known universe

2468
01:42:40,370 --> 01:42:37,560
which is this

2469
01:42:43,189 --> 01:42:40,380
consciousness

2470
01:42:48,649 --> 01:42:43,199
does it exist in the physical

2471
01:42:53,750 --> 01:42:51,530
well it's a good question and I don't

2472
01:42:56,510 --> 01:42:53,760
think anyone has the complete answer to

2473
01:42:59,030 --> 01:42:56,520
that but to me it seems based on what we

2474
01:43:02,870 --> 01:42:59,040
know about sound and frequency

2475
01:43:05,510 --> 01:43:02,880
is that Consciousness and intelligence

2476
01:43:09,530 --> 01:43:05,520
generates matter

2477
01:43:12,590 --> 01:43:09,540
but that our particular biological form

2478
01:43:13,669 --> 01:43:12,600
we're only aware of a sliver of it at a

2479
01:43:15,590 --> 01:43:13,679
time

2480
01:43:16,790 --> 01:43:15,600
so that it exists at a lot of different

2481
01:43:20,570 --> 01:43:16,800
levels

2482
01:43:22,970 --> 01:43:20,580
and it's not it's contained in physical

2483
01:43:25,010 --> 01:43:22,980
matter like we appear to be in this you

2484
01:43:28,250 --> 01:43:25,020
know definite space over a certain time

2485
01:43:30,830 --> 01:43:28,260
period so it has this sort of non-local

2486
01:43:34,129 --> 01:43:30,840
quality to it which is also another

2487
01:43:36,590 --> 01:43:34,139
component of these phenomena

2488
01:43:38,270 --> 01:43:36,600
because if you look at people who've had

2489
01:43:40,070 --> 01:43:38,280
near-death experiences and this whole

2490
01:43:41,149 --> 01:43:40,080
other is a whole other topic that people

2491
01:43:42,950 --> 01:43:41,159
who've

2492
01:43:46,070 --> 01:43:42,960
you know you talk to people that were

2493
01:43:49,189 --> 01:43:46,080
heart surgeons who had patients die on

2494
01:43:51,770 --> 01:43:49,199
the operating table and come back

2495
01:43:53,390 --> 01:43:51,780
those patients just knew way too much

2496
01:43:55,729 --> 01:43:53,400
about what had been going on the whole

2497
01:43:56,990 --> 01:43:55,739
time and described what the outside of

2498
01:43:58,910 --> 01:43:57,000
the building looked like I remember

2499
01:44:00,649 --> 01:43:58,920
hearing cases of people who are

2500
01:44:02,629 --> 01:44:00,659
clinically Dead who could describe the

2501
01:44:03,649 --> 01:44:02,639
inside of the elevator shafts and things

2502
01:44:05,629 --> 01:44:03,659
that there's no way they could have

2503
01:44:08,090 --> 01:44:05,639
known about they had like remote viewing

2504
01:44:11,030 --> 01:44:08,100
experiences while they were clinically

2505
01:44:13,250 --> 01:44:11,040
dead so what that shows us is to me at

2506
01:44:15,229 --> 01:44:13,260
least that the conscious component of

2507
01:44:16,270 --> 01:44:15,239
what we are you know goes beyond the

2508
01:44:19,810 --> 01:44:16,280
physical

2509
01:44:25,430 --> 01:44:19,820
and why why

2510
01:44:28,729 --> 01:44:25,440
is it so easy for science today

2511
01:44:30,530 --> 01:44:28,739
to go the easy route and to say that

2512
01:44:33,470 --> 01:44:30,540
Consciousness is just a chemical

2513
01:44:34,910 --> 01:44:33,480
reaction right that it's it's it's in

2514
01:44:37,010 --> 01:44:34,920
every single particle there's a little

2515
01:44:40,010 --> 01:44:37,020
piece of Consciousness you get enough

2516
01:44:42,830 --> 01:44:40,020
Mass together you know this you know

2517
01:44:45,649 --> 01:44:42,840
five pounds of gray goo between our ears

2518
01:44:46,490 --> 01:44:45,659
and Consciousness is just a product of

2519
01:44:52,010 --> 01:44:46,500
that

2520
01:44:54,050 --> 01:44:52,020
they don't they can't they can't measure

2521
01:44:56,330 --> 01:44:54,060
it therefore they can't

2522
01:44:58,609 --> 01:44:56,340
understand it

2523
01:45:01,669 --> 01:44:58,619
I mean everybody knows every physicist

2524
01:45:05,450 --> 01:45:01,679
knows that they can laugh and cry and

2525
01:45:07,970 --> 01:45:05,460
think and talk you know they they know

2526
01:45:11,270 --> 01:45:07,980
that Consciousness is a thing

2527
01:45:14,209 --> 01:45:11,280
but they don't want to discuss it

2528
01:45:16,370 --> 01:45:14,219
yeah we we come from this mechanistic

2529
01:45:18,590 --> 01:45:16,380
scientific Paradigm which we have to

2530
01:45:22,850 --> 01:45:18,600
respect because it was going up against

2531
01:45:25,370 --> 01:45:22,860
a lot of superstitious and just dogmatic

2532
01:45:27,050 --> 01:45:25,380
religious beliefs of the Middle Ages I

2533
01:45:30,890 --> 01:45:27,060
mean at the time

2534
01:45:32,570 --> 01:45:30,900
they wanted to you know basically

2535
01:45:34,310 --> 01:45:32,580
uh

2536
01:45:37,250 --> 01:45:34,320
take anybody who believed in the

2537
01:45:40,609 --> 01:45:37,260
heliocentric theory versus the ptolemaic

2538
01:45:43,010 --> 01:45:40,619
idea yeah yeah and burn you at the stake

2539
01:45:45,709 --> 01:45:43,020
which they did to Giordano Bruno

2540
01:45:47,209 --> 01:45:45,719
yesterday was the first person to

2541
01:45:49,250 --> 01:45:47,219
propose multiverses in the sense of

2542
01:45:51,109 --> 01:45:49,260
improves the infinite Universe he

2543
01:45:54,950 --> 01:45:51,119
suggested other life forms on other

2544
01:45:56,870 --> 01:45:54,960
planets so science had to challenge that

2545
01:45:58,910 --> 01:45:56,880
and I think we can identify because all

2546
01:46:01,490 --> 01:45:58,920
of my modern people are evidence-based

2547
01:46:03,590 --> 01:46:01,500
we actually like to see some no matter

2548
01:46:05,450 --> 01:46:03,600
where you come down on any of the topics

2549
01:46:08,330 --> 01:46:05,460
we're talking about tonight we can all

2550
01:46:09,649 --> 01:46:08,340
agree that we'd like to see evidence one

2551
01:46:11,209 --> 01:46:09,659
way or another and where we're willing

2552
01:46:13,550 --> 01:46:11,219
to go with the evidence

2553
01:46:15,229 --> 01:46:13,560
whether it's the arrow type evidence we

2554
01:46:16,609 --> 01:46:15,239
don't think that's the full range of

2555
01:46:18,590 --> 01:46:16,619
evidence but we're evidence-based people

2556
01:46:22,010 --> 01:46:18,600
now Consciousness is a little hard to

2557
01:46:24,649 --> 01:46:22,020
fit into an evidence-based Paradigm and

2558
01:46:28,070 --> 01:46:24,659
that's our sort of bias as modern people

2559
01:46:29,510 --> 01:46:28,080
because before the modern era if you

2560
01:46:32,270 --> 01:46:29,520
read books in The History of Science

2561
01:46:34,970 --> 01:46:32,280
people were not evidence-based it either

2562
01:46:38,390 --> 01:46:34,980
had to be something that Aristotle said

2563
01:46:40,430 --> 01:46:38,400
or the church believed in and if the

2564
01:46:42,530 --> 01:46:40,440
evidence didn't fit that they said your

2565
01:46:44,149 --> 01:46:42,540
eyes were deceiving you because it

2566
01:46:46,490 --> 01:46:44,159
didn't fit what they were totally

2567
01:46:48,649 --> 01:46:46,500
belief-based we've switched around the

2568
01:46:51,890 --> 01:46:48,659
other way in the last 500 years to be

2569
01:46:54,050 --> 01:46:51,900
evidence-based which biases us more

2570
01:46:55,310 --> 01:46:54,060
towards material stuff and things that

2571
01:46:58,250 --> 01:46:55,320
we can measure and I don't think that's

2572
01:47:01,189 --> 01:46:58,260
a bad thing but it also means that

2573
01:47:03,770 --> 01:47:01,199
phenomena even RV comes down into this

2574
01:47:05,990 --> 01:47:03,780
category it's a little hard to kind of

2575
01:47:07,970 --> 01:47:06,000
identify what is going on there you can

2576
01:47:09,590 --> 01:47:07,980
look at the page later and see what

2577
01:47:12,770 --> 01:47:09,600
people wrote down but you don't know how

2578
01:47:14,450 --> 01:47:12,780
they got it but going along your

2579
01:47:16,490 --> 01:47:14,460
argument a little more there's so much

2580
01:47:19,850 --> 01:47:16,500
about us that doesn't fit into the

2581
01:47:22,550 --> 01:47:19,860
reductionist model of the brain and even

2582
01:47:25,910 --> 01:47:22,560
in Science magazine which I like to read

2583
01:47:28,250 --> 01:47:25,920
on a weekly basis there are articles

2584
01:47:30,169 --> 01:47:28,260
arguing that the reductionist approach

2585
01:47:32,870 --> 01:47:30,179
to the brain and Consciousness doesn't

2586
01:47:36,050 --> 01:47:32,880
add up even the inventor of the

2587
01:47:37,850 --> 01:47:36,060
microchip Federico fujin and there's a

2588
01:47:39,950 --> 01:47:37,860
free documentary you can watch about the

2589
01:47:42,590 --> 01:47:39,960
four lives of Federico fishing

2590
01:47:45,890 --> 01:47:42,600
he argues in there that Consciousness is

2591
01:47:49,729 --> 01:47:45,900
not something that is easily reducible

2592
01:47:51,890 --> 01:47:49,739
to something mechanistic he argues their

2593
01:47:53,450 --> 01:47:51,900
machines will never be conscious at

2594
01:47:54,490 --> 01:47:53,460
least machines as we understand them the

2595
01:47:58,609 --> 01:47:54,500
Consciousness have something to

2596
01:48:00,770 --> 01:47:58,619
experience and understanding and

2597
01:48:03,470 --> 01:48:00,780
feelings which machines don't have

2598
01:48:05,450 --> 01:48:03,480
directly so it's a very good question

2599
01:48:08,810 --> 01:48:05,460
and I think just the way we look at it

2600
01:48:10,310 --> 01:48:08,820
it's hard to we're reduction we like the

2601
01:48:11,990 --> 01:48:10,320
idea of reductions and to break things

2602
01:48:15,350 --> 01:48:12,000
down into Parts but it simply doesn't

2603
01:48:17,990 --> 01:48:15,360
work in the case of who we are yeah it

2604
01:48:20,270 --> 01:48:18,000
remains a mystery and the big brain

2605
01:48:24,590 --> 01:48:20,280
experiment it's still ongoing in

2606
01:48:26,090 --> 01:48:24,600
Switzerland uh the idea it sounds

2607
01:48:29,510 --> 01:48:26,100
plausible

2608
01:48:32,570 --> 01:48:29,520
if we build a computer big enough

2609
01:48:34,550 --> 01:48:32,580
with a trillion connections just like

2610
01:48:38,510 --> 01:48:34,560
the human brain

2611
01:48:40,310 --> 01:48:38,520
it'll work right so they built it and

2612
01:48:43,550 --> 01:48:40,320
it's impressive

2613
01:48:46,970 --> 01:48:43,560
didn't do nothing right and it was just

2614
01:48:50,510 --> 01:48:46,980
like wait a minute I guess the brain is

2615
01:48:53,510 --> 01:48:50,520
actually pretty cool and in the end

2616
01:48:56,390 --> 01:48:53,520
um and I'm paraphrasing all of this but

2617
01:48:58,250 --> 01:48:56,400
in the end the billions of dollars that

2618
01:48:59,810 --> 01:48:58,260
they spent and continue to spend on that

2619
01:49:02,330 --> 01:48:59,820
project

2620
01:49:05,930 --> 01:49:02,340
um the magic that they thought was going

2621
01:49:08,930 --> 01:49:05,940
to happen possible sentience right and

2622
01:49:11,390 --> 01:49:08,940
all of this maybe it did the

2623
01:49:13,910 --> 01:49:11,400
Consciousness could develop

2624
01:49:16,430 --> 01:49:13,920
um and thought patterns and and things

2625
01:49:18,350 --> 01:49:16,440
none of that happened it was just an

2626
01:49:20,689 --> 01:49:18,360
oversized computer

2627
01:49:23,030 --> 01:49:20,699
um the brain works in magical ways and

2628
01:49:26,629 --> 01:49:23,040
you're right the the reduction is part

2629
01:49:28,010 --> 01:49:26,639
they've tried they've tried and I think

2630
01:49:29,870 --> 01:49:28,020
that the more that we study the brain

2631
01:49:31,910 --> 01:49:29,880
the more that we understand that it's

2632
01:49:33,770 --> 01:49:31,920
probably the most amazing Creation in

2633
01:49:36,410 --> 01:49:33,780
the universe

2634
01:49:39,229 --> 01:49:36,420
yeah there's some it's more than just

2635
01:49:42,649 --> 01:49:39,239
the sum of the parts even with trillions

2636
01:49:44,810 --> 01:49:42,659
of synaptic connections which seem to be

2637
01:49:46,669 --> 01:49:44,820
more if you take all the neurons we have

2638
01:49:48,350 --> 01:49:46,679
and all the multiples of connections

2639
01:49:50,689 --> 01:49:48,360
apparently it's more than

2640
01:49:52,370 --> 01:49:50,699
stars in the universe it's just a huge

2641
01:49:54,890 --> 01:49:52,380
amount of connections but even if you

2642
01:49:57,709 --> 01:49:54,900
add all that up it's not just this

2643
01:49:59,570 --> 01:49:57,719
quantitative sort of additive thing

2644
01:50:01,970 --> 01:49:59,580
there's something more to it than that

2645
01:50:04,850 --> 01:50:01,980
that we can't get it and not all

2646
01:50:06,470 --> 01:50:04,860
cultures believe that we're based in our

2647
01:50:08,990 --> 01:50:06,480
brains you know I spent some time

2648
01:50:11,990 --> 01:50:09,000
teaching remote viewing in Japan

2649
01:50:14,930 --> 01:50:12,000
and the Japanese believe that the center

2650
01:50:17,689 --> 01:50:14,940
of our being is in our stomachs in kind

2651
01:50:19,910 --> 01:50:17,699
of our midsection not in our physical

2652
01:50:21,709 --> 01:50:19,920
brain so even that is just a certain

2653
01:50:23,689 --> 01:50:21,719
cultural idea

2654
01:50:25,669 --> 01:50:23,699
but I don't think that Paradigm is ever

2655
01:50:27,770 --> 01:50:25,679
going to explain what's going on here

2656
01:50:30,290 --> 01:50:27,780
and that that reductionist Paradigm is

2657
01:50:31,970 --> 01:50:30,300
just too limit quantum mechanics in and

2658
01:50:34,430 --> 01:50:31,980
of itself

2659
01:50:36,830 --> 01:50:34,440
sort of disassembles the reductionist

2660
01:50:38,870 --> 01:50:36,840
Paradigm because it creates this idea of

2661
01:50:42,050 --> 01:50:38,880
quantum entanglement

2662
01:50:43,790 --> 01:50:42,060
which is not reducible to its parts it's

2663
01:50:47,510 --> 01:50:43,800
some sort of

2664
01:50:49,250 --> 01:50:47,520
kind of long-ranged distribution that

2665
01:50:52,250 --> 01:50:49,260
you get from particles

2666
01:50:54,830 --> 01:50:52,260
that does not reduce to any particular

2667
01:50:56,689 --> 01:50:54,840
part it's a more of a Field Effect and

2668
01:50:58,850 --> 01:50:56,699
this is why it can't really be reduced

2669
01:51:01,729 --> 01:50:58,860
but I think we're still

2670
01:51:04,430 --> 01:51:01,739
you know we brought up around this

2671
01:51:06,430 --> 01:51:04,440
mechanistic idea this was popular in

2672
01:51:08,510 --> 01:51:06,440
medicine for a while

2673
01:51:12,229 --> 01:51:08,520
we know we're more than some of our

2674
01:51:16,609 --> 01:51:12,239
parts yeah and well with speaking of

2675
01:51:18,229 --> 01:51:16,619
entanglement I mean that is that's at

2676
01:51:20,870 --> 01:51:18,239
the speed of now

2677
01:51:23,350 --> 01:51:20,880
right not the speed of light right we're

2678
01:51:28,310 --> 01:51:23,360
talking about at the same time

2679
01:51:30,830 --> 01:51:28,320
is that the magic behind remote viewing

2680
01:51:33,169 --> 01:51:30,840
because remote viewing is not at the

2681
01:51:36,050 --> 01:51:33,179
speed of light either it's at the speed

2682
01:51:38,090 --> 01:51:36,060
of thought it's at the speed of now is

2683
01:51:40,609 --> 01:51:38,100
is entanglement

2684
01:51:44,149 --> 01:51:40,619
is that what is going on that you're

2685
01:51:47,450 --> 01:51:44,159
finding a way uh to entangle particles

2686
01:51:49,910 --> 01:51:47,460
and you know at Great distances but see

2687
01:51:52,070 --> 01:51:49,920
those in real time

2688
01:51:55,430 --> 01:51:52,080
well this is something that's a subject

2689
01:51:58,570 --> 01:51:55,440
of great debate is quantum entanglement

2690
01:52:01,570 --> 01:51:58,580
responsible for these non-local effects

2691
01:52:05,050 --> 01:52:01,580
and RV is one of these

2692
01:52:08,030 --> 01:52:05,060
I think telepathy is intense yeah

2693
01:52:10,550 --> 01:52:08,040
telepathy and pre this is the weird

2694
01:52:13,189 --> 01:52:10,560
thing about it that I it anyone has

2695
01:52:16,070 --> 01:52:13,199
encountered this it's a real mind Bender

2696
01:52:17,930 --> 01:52:16,080
the fact that you can remote view things

2697
01:52:20,030 --> 01:52:17,940
that haven't happened yet and it can be

2698
01:52:21,770 --> 01:52:20,040
accurate as if it already exists out

2699
01:52:24,350 --> 01:52:21,780
there in space-time but it's not here

2700
01:52:25,970 --> 01:52:24,360
physically yet but your RV might picked

2701
01:52:28,250 --> 01:52:25,980
up something that's not going to happen

2702
01:52:29,990 --> 01:52:28,260
until tomorrow or a few days later or a

2703
01:52:32,209 --> 01:52:30,000
week later and people have done

2704
01:52:33,950 --> 01:52:32,219
experiments with this just using binary

2705
01:52:36,830 --> 01:52:33,960
outcomes where they convert the outcomes

2706
01:52:39,950 --> 01:52:36,840
of markets over like 10 years Greg

2707
01:52:42,830 --> 01:52:39,960
collagesic a Canadian extreme distance

2708
01:52:45,109 --> 01:52:42,840
athlete endurance athlete did his own

2709
01:52:47,330 --> 01:52:45,119
test for 13 years and was able to get

2710
01:52:49,609 --> 01:52:47,340
predictions of

2711
01:52:53,390 --> 01:52:49,619
stock market type Financial you know

2712
01:52:56,990 --> 01:52:53,400
binary outcomes up or down about 65 70

2713
01:52:58,669 --> 01:52:57,000
percent accuracy over 5 000 trials

2714
01:53:00,290 --> 01:52:58,679
there's no way you're going to do that

2715
01:53:01,550 --> 01:53:00,300
unless there's a real effect there you

2716
01:53:03,470 --> 01:53:01,560
can't reproduce that over 13 years

2717
01:53:05,689 --> 01:53:03,480
unless it would just look like 50 50

2718
01:53:07,970 --> 01:53:05,699
after 13 years believe me right in the

2719
01:53:11,030 --> 01:53:07,980
statistician but the quantum

2720
01:53:12,830 --> 01:53:11,040
entanglement idea does not suggest that

2721
01:53:15,290 --> 01:53:12,840
you were exchanging information at a

2722
01:53:17,390 --> 01:53:15,300
distance it just says that particles

2723
01:53:18,590 --> 01:53:17,400
that are entangled if one has been the

2724
01:53:20,209 --> 01:53:18,600
other way the other has to spin the

2725
01:53:21,890 --> 01:53:20,219
opposite if you know this one's up the

2726
01:53:24,530 --> 01:53:21,900
other one has to be down it doesn't say

2727
01:53:27,410 --> 01:53:24,540
they can communicate in real time

2728
01:53:29,030 --> 01:53:27,420
so I think it's more likely even though

2729
01:53:31,910 --> 01:53:29,040
quantum entanglement is literally

2730
01:53:34,129 --> 01:53:31,920
holding all this together right now it

2731
01:53:36,649 --> 01:53:34,139
doesn't say that there is a sort of

2732
01:53:38,870 --> 01:53:36,659
communication at a distance personally

2733
01:53:40,850 --> 01:53:38,880
what I think is more likely going on is

2734
01:53:43,729 --> 01:53:40,860
I go back to the Dark Matter explanation

2735
01:53:46,910 --> 01:53:43,739
we're interacting with flows of matter

2736
01:53:48,950 --> 01:53:46,920
that we can't see but that have you know

2737
01:53:51,229 --> 01:53:48,960
they it they have like webs throughout

2738
01:53:53,149 --> 01:53:51,239
the entire Cosmos through our universe

2739
01:53:55,790 --> 01:53:53,159
and probably into the Multiverse this

2740
01:53:57,830 --> 01:53:55,800
sort of fractal web of dark matter like

2741
01:54:00,229 --> 01:53:57,840
these strings of matter and they're

2742
01:54:03,229 --> 01:54:00,239
communicating all the time and this is

2743
01:54:05,870 --> 01:54:03,239
why I think you can relate RV to PK

2744
01:54:08,270 --> 01:54:05,880
I saw demonstrations of this when I was

2745
01:54:11,209 --> 01:54:08,280
in Japan a number of years ago of people

2746
01:54:14,390 --> 01:54:11,219
that could levitate objects over their

2747
01:54:17,570 --> 01:54:14,400
hand in one case this particular

2748
01:54:20,870 --> 01:54:17,580
practitioner levitated a cigarette into

2749
01:54:22,570 --> 01:54:20,880
my shirt pocket from 15 feet away and

2750
01:54:26,149 --> 01:54:22,580
that cigarette

2751
01:54:29,270 --> 01:54:26,159
force it made a right angle turn as it

2752
01:54:31,550 --> 01:54:29,280
was like a torpedo coming at me what is

2753
01:54:33,470 --> 01:54:31,560
this there has to be a wire something no

2754
01:54:35,209 --> 01:54:33,480
I still have the cigarette it made a

2755
01:54:37,729 --> 01:54:35,219
right angle turn and this guy was

2756
01:54:40,129 --> 01:54:37,739
staring at it and it went right into the

2757
01:54:42,530 --> 01:54:40,139
shirt pocket boom you could feel it go

2758
01:54:46,370 --> 01:54:42,540
in and he's not he's 15 feet away

2759
01:54:49,129 --> 01:54:46,380
PK is real and I know this because the

2760
01:54:52,070 --> 01:54:49,139
defense our defense department Pentagon

2761
01:54:53,870 --> 01:54:52,080
was studying Soviet PK experiments in

2762
01:54:55,430 --> 01:54:53,880
the 70s and I can tell you for a fact

2763
01:54:57,290 --> 01:54:55,440
because I've been told this by people

2764
01:54:59,810 --> 01:54:57,300
that were in the room at the time they

2765
01:55:02,750 --> 01:54:59,820
were monitoring Soviet PK experiments

2766
01:55:04,370 --> 01:55:02,760
where Soviet PK practitioners could Bend

2767
01:55:07,070 --> 01:55:04,380
to spoon a thousand miles away from

2768
01:55:09,470 --> 01:55:07,080
Moscow in the spoon bent on command it

2769
01:55:11,689 --> 01:55:09,480
literally bent from a sender A Thousand

2770
01:55:14,450 --> 01:55:11,699
Miles distant from the spoon

2771
01:55:17,209 --> 01:55:14,460
I think PK and RV are related because

2772
01:55:20,030 --> 01:55:17,219
just like parkemov argues they're Dark

2773
01:55:22,189 --> 01:55:20,040
Matter effects so my personal bent is

2774
01:55:23,990 --> 01:55:22,199
more towards these Relic neutrinos

2775
01:55:26,390 --> 01:55:24,000
they're they're called neutrinos when

2776
01:55:29,270 --> 01:55:26,400
they emit them and I think going back to

2777
01:55:31,450 --> 01:55:29,280
coherent matter someone that could emit

2778
01:55:34,790 --> 01:55:31,460
coherent matter in

2779
01:55:36,709 --> 01:55:34,800
a directed way would be levitating and

2780
01:55:39,410 --> 01:55:36,719
pushing objects around since dark matter

2781
01:55:41,450 --> 01:55:39,420
is a gravitationally based type of force

2782
01:55:43,550 --> 01:55:41,460
so I go more in that direction Jimmy

2783
01:55:45,590 --> 01:55:43,560
than in the quantum entanglement view

2784
01:55:47,330 --> 01:55:45,600
just because physicists tell us I'm just

2785
01:55:49,609 --> 01:55:47,340
reading about it earlier today from a

2786
01:55:51,649 --> 01:55:49,619
guy named Anton zellinger who happened

2787
01:55:53,149 --> 01:55:51,659
to win the Nobel Prize last year for

2788
01:55:56,330 --> 01:55:53,159
this quantum entanglement and he's

2789
01:55:58,490 --> 01:55:56,340
arguing you can do quantum teleportation

2790
01:55:59,990 --> 01:55:58,500
but not directly with two particles you

2791
01:56:01,370 --> 01:56:00,000
have to involve a third particle and

2792
01:56:03,470 --> 01:56:01,380
there's sort of a complex way they just

2793
01:56:05,270 --> 01:56:03,480
I read that I read that you you know

2794
01:56:07,250 --> 01:56:05,280
about this so I'm more I won't go more

2795
01:56:08,689 --> 01:56:07,260
in the direction of Dark Matter than I

2796
01:56:11,390 --> 01:56:08,699
have a video on my YouTube channel where

2797
01:56:13,070 --> 01:56:11,400
I argue it's more probably no one knows

2798
01:56:14,990 --> 01:56:13,080
for sure more of a dark matter effect

2799
01:56:17,510 --> 01:56:15,000
than a quantum entanglement effect well

2800
01:56:19,850 --> 01:56:17,520
didn't the Chinese route of time I could

2801
01:56:22,550 --> 01:56:19,860
do this we could talk for the next I

2802
01:56:26,750 --> 01:56:22,560
can't wait to get you back uh didn't the

2803
01:56:30,169 --> 01:56:26,760
Chinese twice over the last year

2804
01:56:31,609 --> 01:56:30,179
change the state of particles and prove

2805
01:56:34,970 --> 01:56:31,619
entanglement

2806
01:56:35,649 --> 01:56:34,980
um from satellite to satellite right

2807
01:56:38,750 --> 01:56:35,659
right

2808
01:56:41,149 --> 01:56:38,760
so there is probably no there is

2809
01:56:43,370 --> 01:56:41,159
probably a way to do it the zeligan you

2810
01:56:46,010 --> 01:56:43,380
know the zellinger way and other ways of

2811
01:56:48,830 --> 01:56:46,020
using the principle to create something

2812
01:56:50,990 --> 01:56:48,840
at a distance I've talked in Boulder to

2813
01:56:53,629 --> 01:56:51,000
people that were working at with quantum

2814
01:56:55,850 --> 01:56:53,639
computers up at nist National Institute

2815
01:56:57,410 --> 01:56:55,860
for standards yeah I've asked them this

2816
01:56:59,270 --> 01:56:57,420
question Jimmy and they said without

2817
01:57:01,430 --> 01:56:59,280
quantum entanglement you wouldn't have

2818
01:57:03,770 --> 01:57:01,440
quantum computers so there must be a way

2819
01:57:05,629 --> 01:57:03,780
yeah so they were arguing the opposite

2820
01:57:07,430 --> 01:57:05,639
of this standard view they said they

2821
01:57:09,169 --> 01:57:07,440
have to be exchanging information or we

2822
01:57:10,910 --> 01:57:09,179
wouldn't have even the idea of a quantum

2823
01:57:13,250 --> 01:57:10,920
computer which now we know exists at

2824
01:57:16,129 --> 01:57:13,260
least for a few you know fractions of a

2825
01:57:18,950 --> 01:57:16,139
second at a time yeah it it it's the

2826
01:57:21,950 --> 01:57:18,960
whole idea you see this is this is the

2827
01:57:25,669 --> 01:57:21,960
part where I keep going back to you know

2828
01:57:28,250 --> 01:57:25,679
a Sean Carroll or some you know atheist

2829
01:57:30,890 --> 01:57:28,260
physicist guy that

2830
01:57:34,430 --> 01:57:30,900
um you know will will tell you how a

2831
01:57:37,189 --> 01:57:34,440
cubit works right that you've got a zero

2832
01:57:41,149 --> 01:57:37,199
one and and a both and the both that

2833
01:57:44,870 --> 01:57:41,159
qubit is entangled in a parallel world

2834
01:57:47,810 --> 01:57:44,880
with a particle uh interact and it's

2835
01:57:48,770 --> 01:57:47,820
that computational power right I'm like

2836
01:57:52,070 --> 01:57:48,780
wait a minute

2837
01:57:55,070 --> 01:57:52,080
you're telling me some Star Trek science

2838
01:57:57,229 --> 01:57:55,080
fiction you know I'm gonna say a bad you

2839
01:57:58,430 --> 01:57:57,239
know [\h__\h] which I believe is real

2840
01:58:00,950 --> 01:57:58,440
that's not what I'm saying I'm saying

2841
01:58:03,229 --> 01:58:00,960
you're going to feed me that but you

2842
01:58:06,530 --> 01:58:03,239
don't believe in ghosts right this is

2843
01:58:09,050 --> 01:58:06,540
like wait wait exactly thank you you

2844
01:58:11,270 --> 01:58:09,060
can't have it both ways thank you you

2845
01:58:12,709 --> 01:58:11,280
made my day it's exactly what I say

2846
01:58:14,450 --> 01:58:12,719
you're gonna tell me all this spooky

2847
01:58:16,970 --> 01:58:14,460
stuff's going on in quantum entanglement

2848
01:58:21,970 --> 01:58:16,980
and groups of particles and David

2849
01:58:25,129 --> 01:58:21,980
Deutsch of colleague of Sean Carroll yes

2850
01:58:27,229 --> 01:58:25,139
argues that Quantum Computing proves the

2851
01:58:29,149 --> 01:58:27,239
existence of a hue Everett Multiverse

2852
01:58:31,250 --> 01:58:29,159
this is what Deutsche argues is that

2853
01:58:33,109 --> 01:58:31,260
when the computer is doing its thing

2854
01:58:35,030 --> 01:58:33,119
it's in a superposition of all possible

2855
01:58:37,129 --> 01:58:35,040
worlds and then sort of comes down into

2856
01:58:38,990 --> 01:58:37,139
our world with one solution and yet

2857
01:58:41,330 --> 01:58:39,000
those very same people the David

2858
01:58:43,310 --> 01:58:41,340
deutsches and Sean Carroll in particular

2859
01:58:45,470 --> 01:58:43,320
if you've looked at his tweets argue no

2860
01:58:47,930 --> 01:58:45,480
there's no telepathy there's no RV

2861
01:58:50,149 --> 01:58:47,940
there's no ghosts there's no UFOs get

2862
01:58:52,250 --> 01:58:50,159
over it how could you argue we're going

2863
01:58:55,270 --> 01:58:52,260
to multiverses with your freaking

2864
01:58:57,470 --> 01:58:55,280
quantum computers and um Hugh Everett

2865
01:58:59,870 --> 01:58:57,480
branching structure but there's none of

2866
01:59:02,149 --> 01:58:59,880
these phenomena that thousands and

2867
01:59:03,410 --> 01:59:02,159
thousands of people have experienced and

2868
01:59:04,790 --> 01:59:03,420
they've told you about it and they've

2869
01:59:06,470 --> 01:59:04,800
told me about it it doesn't make sense

2870
01:59:08,270 --> 01:59:06,480
that's where those people are completely

2871
01:59:11,149 --> 01:59:08,280
unscientific and illogical yeah

2872
01:59:13,550 --> 01:59:11,159
completely and you know I've read all of

2873
01:59:16,089 --> 01:59:13,560
Sean Carroll's books right I listened to

2874
01:59:21,109 --> 01:59:16,099
all of his lectures I love his podcast

2875
01:59:24,229 --> 01:59:21,119
uh and and and things but man he I don't

2876
01:59:26,390 --> 01:59:24,239
think he has any clue how quickly I'll

2877
01:59:28,910 --> 01:59:26,400
tune out when he goes in that direction

2878
01:59:31,970 --> 01:59:28,920
yeah it's it's weird because I love his

2879
01:59:34,270 --> 01:59:31,980
stuff his explanation of time it's it's

2880
01:59:37,910 --> 01:59:34,280
dude it's some of the best

2881
01:59:41,450 --> 01:59:37,920
and then and then he'll go well you know

2882
01:59:43,669 --> 01:59:41,460
uh yeah he does um he does an AMA once a

2883
01:59:45,410 --> 01:59:43,679
month it's a three-hour show I love it

2884
01:59:47,930 --> 01:59:45,420
right and he goes through and he's

2885
01:59:50,390 --> 01:59:47,940
reading the questions and somebody he'll

2886
01:59:52,790 --> 01:59:50,400
do it man once a month somebody will go

2887
01:59:55,850 --> 01:59:52,800
okay man but what about ghosts what

2888
01:59:58,129 --> 01:59:55,860
about Consciousness right and Carol goes

2889
02:00:01,370 --> 01:59:58,139
I don't have time

2890
02:00:03,770 --> 02:00:01,380
for things that aren't real

2891
02:00:07,490 --> 02:00:03,780
it's like Doom oh

2892
02:00:09,290 --> 02:00:07,500
have you has he bothered to look at the

2893
02:00:11,330 --> 02:00:09,300
rvx

2894
02:00:13,970 --> 02:00:11,340
statistically significance to the end

2895
02:00:16,609 --> 02:00:13,980
Point that's data you know who the most

2896
02:00:18,709 --> 02:00:16,619
spiritual person in the world is

2897
02:00:22,129 --> 02:00:18,719
Sean Carroll when that plane is going

2898
02:00:23,930 --> 02:00:22,139
down I guarantee you man I guarantee it

2899
02:00:28,790 --> 02:00:23,940
I guarantee it he'd be the most

2900
02:00:30,229 --> 02:00:28,800
spiritual mofo sudden conversion yeah I

2901
02:00:32,570 --> 02:00:30,239
have the exact same reaction YouTube

2902
02:00:34,609 --> 02:00:32,580
he's one of the brightest guys we have

2903
02:00:37,129 --> 02:00:34,619
around so good at explaining all of this

2904
02:00:38,870 --> 02:00:37,139
and he's able goes off into parallel

2905
02:00:40,910 --> 02:00:38,880
realities explains to us why it makes

2906
02:00:42,589 --> 02:00:40,920
sense why it's a simpler interpretation

2907
02:00:44,149 --> 02:00:42,599
of quantum mechanics and then he wears

2908
02:00:46,189 --> 02:00:44,159
off when someone asks about this I said

2909
02:00:47,810 --> 02:00:46,199
no that's just fiction that's I never

2910
02:00:49,750 --> 02:00:47,820
have time for that stuff you don't have

2911
02:00:58,430 --> 02:00:49,760
to

2912
02:01:00,229 --> 02:00:58,440
again very very soon where can everybody

2913
02:01:02,930 --> 02:01:00,239
get your books you've got how many out

2914
02:01:05,890 --> 02:01:02,940
now one two three four five six yes Dark

2915
02:01:08,450 --> 02:01:05,900
Matter monsters

2916
02:01:10,209 --> 02:01:08,460
and don't forget opening Minds yeah you

2917
02:01:12,169 --> 02:01:10,219
can get them all at my website

2918
02:01:14,089 --> 02:01:12,179
newcrystalmind.com I love to send people

2919
02:01:15,229 --> 02:01:14,099
signed copies that's a real thrill to me

2920
02:01:17,209 --> 02:01:15,239
but of course you can get them through

2921
02:01:19,209 --> 02:01:17,219
Amazon if you just you know if you want

2922
02:01:22,430 --> 02:01:19,219
to get it usually but go to my website

2923
02:01:25,370 --> 02:01:22,440
newcrystalmind.com I've got a pinned

2924
02:01:27,109 --> 02:01:25,380
post at the top for listeners to

2925
02:01:29,209 --> 02:01:27,119
to get signed copies for me directly

2926
02:01:32,870 --> 02:01:29,219
okay give me I'm gonna I'm gonna post it

2927
02:01:37,149 --> 02:01:32,880
right now it's it's what dub dub yeah

2928
02:01:44,750 --> 02:01:40,930
newcrystalmind.com I can post

2929
02:01:46,970 --> 02:01:44,760
links in the chat

2930
02:01:50,149 --> 02:01:46,980
what a great conversation I I look

2931
02:01:52,430 --> 02:01:50,159
forward to uh the next one brilliant on

2932
02:01:56,030 --> 02:01:52,440
every level thank you so much Simeon and

2933
02:01:58,790 --> 02:01:56,040
enjoy the rest of your night and Astro I

2934
02:02:00,950 --> 02:01:58,800
think it now knows the show is over he

2935
02:02:03,169 --> 02:02:00,960
just looked up I'll talk to you Jimmy

2936
02:02:05,510 --> 02:02:03,179
thank you so much talk to you next time

2937
02:02:08,109 --> 02:02:05,520
great show perfect show thank you so

2938
02:02:11,330 --> 02:02:08,119
much uh Dr Simeon Hein again

2939
02:02:13,609 --> 02:02:11,340
mountbaldi.com and new crystalmind.com

2940
02:02:16,850 --> 02:02:13,619
I've got the links up they're up in

2941
02:02:19,669 --> 02:02:16,860
social media and they're also over on

2942
02:02:21,290 --> 02:02:19,679
our website wow what an amazing show

2943
02:02:24,770 --> 02:02:21,300
tonight that was perfect

2944
02:02:26,930 --> 02:02:24,780
I I got everything in that I love to

2945
02:02:28,490 --> 02:02:26,940
talk about you guys know I was in my

2946
02:02:31,070 --> 02:02:28,500
element tonight

2947
02:02:35,030 --> 02:02:31,080
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2948
02:02:36,770 --> 02:02:35,040
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2949
02:02:39,410 --> 02:02:36,780
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2950
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2951
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2952
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2953
02:02:48,410 --> 02:02:46,440
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2954
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2955
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2956
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2961
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2962
02:03:06,709 --> 02:03:04,860
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2963
02:03:17,230 --> 02:03:06,719
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